do most spanish people hate Che and Fidel Castro?

[feroz]

ok im a muslim desi. i havent had much education about che and fidel. but from what i read and saw in documentaries, i admire both of them.

im asking, i was rocking a che shirt in philly one time, and this colombian dude got offended by it. he didnt get all angry but instead he told me why he hated che so much. i still think che and fidel are geniuses. even though fidel i think had something to do with che's assasination.

[emceemikkal]

well... lol yeah fidel definitely had somethin' to do with it.

i forgot who it exactly was now that killed him... like a bolivian officer thing... whatever... but yeah i respect guevara's views alot. some people might be against him... i don't think most hate him though. alot try to be revolutionary now by wearing his shirts... but they ain't nothin'.

[YuNgYal]

I don't

[la_mas_sexii]

i dont etiher...che & fidel r both people who weren't scared to start revolutions... i supposed some people hate them for their different way of thinking because they fear change...but as for me, i dont have a problem with wut either one of them believe...esp. che, hes from my country ;) lol

[Amen]

a lot of niggas wearin Che shirts don't know what he stood for to begin with. Niggas trying to color coordinate their outfits, being a walking billboard of capitalism, while having Che's face on their shirt. Some fraudulent faggits.

[la_mas_sexii]

a lot of niggas wearin Che shirts don't know what he stood for to begin with. Niggas trying to color coordinate their outfits, being a walking billboard of capitalism, while having Che's face on their shirt. Some fraudulent faggits.
tru that it soooo tru. a lot of niqqaz even think hes cuban...which of course he isnt...a lot of times i go up to ppl who wear his shirts and ask them if they even kno whose face their wearing...and most of em dont know ! its sad... but who would have ever thought that his face would be so immensely popular ..? wont catch n e 1 rockin castro on their shirts dats 4 sho...

[BabyBrownEyez]

a lot of niggas wearin Che shirts don't know what he stood for to begin with. Niggas trying to color coordinate their outfits, being a walking billboard of capitalism, while having Che's face on their shirt. Some fraudulent faggits.

So True!! I was at the mall the other day and this girl, (note: she wasn't even close 2 being hispanic) was wearing a red shirt with Che's face on it that said "Revolucion"...Me being teh curious person that i am said.."trying 2 make a statement"...She laughed and said "I don't know what my shirt means, do u know who this is"....I rolled my eyes, and walked away...didn't want 2 have 2 regret anything i said 2 her later...

[Amen]

So True!! I was at the mall the other day and this girl, (note: she wasn't even close 2 being hispanic) was wearing a red shirt with Che's face on it that said "Revolucion"...Me being teh curious person that i am said.."trying 2 make a statement"...She laughed and said "I don't know what my shirt means, do u know who this is"....I rolled my eyes, and walked away...didn't want 2 have 2 regret anything i said 2 her later...


you should've put her in her place tho. Not on some disrespectful shit, but on some schooling shit. White people need to learn that they can't adopt everything as their own.

I've seen a white kid get snuffed for wearin a Che Guevara shirt and not knowing what's up.

[TX COLOMBIANO]

a lot of niggas wearin Che shirts don't know what he stood for to begin with. Niggas trying to color coordinate their outfits, being a walking billboard of capitalism, while having Che's face on their shirt. Some fraudulent faggits.
thank u


i guess che's photogenic face is jus da most marketable form of communism and teenage "individuality" right now.



and yes i hate che and fidel.

[TX COLOMBIANO]

i dun kno how ppl could admire che,fidel or any otha communist



his ideals have killed many of my ppl and his own cuban ppl alike.


but i guess since mos ppl in da US lived here all they lives, they cant see what communism really does and why it doesn't work.


communist idealists and revolutionaries have killed thousands of our own latinos and uneducated misinformed assholes walk around wit that bastards face on their shirts.

if u got a che shirt, u deserva a asswhoopin or 2


face it, communism dont work. never has n it prolly never will.


i cant wait till el fifo dies, maybe i can go to med skool cheap

[TX COLOMBIANO]

i agree ^ lol

[feroz]

well... lol yeah fidel definitely had somethin' to do with it.

i forgot who it exactly was now that killed him... like a bolivian officer thing... whatever... but yeah i respect guevara's views alot. some people might be against him... i don't think most hate him though. alot try to be revolutionary now by wearing his shirts... but they ain't nothin'.


well for one thing, i know fidel come to che's aide when he was outnumbered by the fidel oppositoin guerillas, who in fact were trained by the CIA.

anyone that opposed che or fidel. the CIA had set up little camps to train them to assasinate. and one of those got to che, and fidel completely turned hsi back.

communism, capitalism, socialism all are same. they have thier highs and lows, good and bad.

[Skittlexx]

I respect a lot of Che and Fidel's work, but I don't think they're saints, no one is...

I agree with Amen, it's so true in being such a contradiction. Che has become a form of fashion, and in London, everyone's wearin em trynna be gangsta but it aint right like you said.

x

[forensic_chica]

I respect a lot of Che and Fidel's work, but I don't think they're saints, no one is...

I agree with Amen, it's so true in being such a contradiction. Che has become a form of fashion, and in London, everyone's wearin em trynna be gangsta but it aint right like you said.

x
i'm in total agreement wit what u said ^^ i believe fidel was a good man. i dont know much about che. :D

[molvicorleone]

a lot of niggas wearin Che shirts don't know what he stood for to begin with. Niggas trying to color coordinate their outfits, being a walking billboard of capitalism, while having Che's face on their shirt. Some fraudulent faggits.


but blacks can wear yellow and pink and make it look good.





















nonotreallytheylooklikebaffoons.

[simonbolivar]

i dun kno how ppl could admire che,fidel or any otha communist



his ideals have killed many of my ppl and his own cuban ppl alike.


but i guess since mos ppl in da US lived here all they lives, they cant see what communism really does and why it doesn't work.


communist idealists and revolutionaries have killed thousands of our own latinos and uneducated misinformed assholes walk around wit that bastards face on their shirts.

if u got a che shirt, u deserva a asswhoopin or 2


face it, communism dont work. never has n it prolly never will.


i cant wait till el fifo dies, maybe i can go to med skool cheap
Yo, he got freedom for his people though. Thats all that matters.

You should see the movie Motorcycle Diaries, it really gives and indepth look into Che.

[kerberos]

i dun kno how ppl could admire che,fidel or any otha communist



his ideals have killed many of my ppl and his own cuban ppl alike.


but i guess since mos ppl in da US lived here all they lives, they cant see what communism really does and why it doesn't work.


communist idealists and revolutionaries have killed thousands of our own latinos and uneducated misinformed assholes walk around wit that bastards face on their shirts.

if u got a che shirt, u deserva a asswhoopin or 2


face it, communism dont work. never has n it prolly never will.


i cant wait till el fifo dies, maybe i can go to med skool cheap
true.

[SupersonicBitch]

best to ask that question at a 'spanish' forum and even for a 'spanish' forum that question is too general. being from the latin american culture i admire fellow hispanic che gueverra. che is quite popular among the european bohemian-elite. have you read anything by him or of him?

[legit_pipegame]

no unless you are upper class ,european lookin hispanic meaning white ...but afro an native lookin latinos are for che

[LaLokaDelGrupo]

i dun kno how ppl could admire che,fidel or any otha communist



his ideals have killed many of my ppl and his own cuban ppl alike.


but i guess since mos ppl in da US lived here all they lives, they cant see what communism really does and why it doesn't work.


communist idealists and revolutionaries have killed thousands of our own latinos and uneducated misinformed assholes walk around wit that bastards face on their shirts.

if u got a che shirt, u deserva a asswhoopin or 2


face it, communism dont work. never has n it prolly never will.


i cant wait till el fifo dies, maybe i can go to med skool cheap

Co-sign!

[PRHotBoi]

i dont hate them either...but people should def catch Motorcycle Diaries...i got much respect for El Che and trying to unite Latino America for the better...

[TX COLOMBIANO]

Yo, he got freedom for his people though. Thats all that matters.

You should see the movie Motorcycle Diaries, it really gives and indepth look into Che.
How exactly does a communist governement give you freedom?


Face it, communism doesn't work.

Pussy whipped pseudo-liberal yuppies can bitch and whine all they want, but capitalism gave them their BMW's and leather handbags.


I actually lived in Colombia, I have seen what his sympathizers are capable of and there is no way you can tell me all the people who have lost their lives and houses are worth it.

[Da_Last_Word]

best to ask that question at a 'spanish' forum and even for a 'spanish' forum that question is too general. being from the latin american culture i admire fellow hispanic che gueverra. che is quite popular among the european bohemian-elite. have you read anything by him or of him?

Hahaha, I noticed that too. People always call Latin Americans(and lots of them call themselves) Spanish even though they're not from Spain.

[Da_Last_Word]

I kind of admire Fidel Castro too. He has tried to instill equality. Unlike in the U.S. where there's a big social and economic gap between white and black Americans. Fidel has put a lot of white Cubans on the same level as black Cubans and I think that has helped to make up for slavery in Cuba. LOL, it's kind of like in those private schools where they make everybody where the same uniform so that nobody is treated or looked at differently. I mean, a lot of white Cubans are still above black Cubans but most of them are the ones who have fled to the U.S. You can even see what I mean in Cuban rap and Cuban American rap. The things that white Cubans rap about and the things that black Cubans rap about reflect what Castro has done and hasn't done. He kind of reminds me of Suge Knight. Suge Knight does a lot of bad things but he also does a lot of good things.

"At least the American embargo on Cuba is not soundproof.

Otherwise, hip-hop might never have reinvented Cuban music. Both in the United States and on the island, young Cubans are using rap to sound off on what it means to be Cuban.


But being Cuban means different things in different places.

Like the 90-mile stretch of sea between Havana and Key West, Fla., there is a gulf between Cuban and Cuban-American rappers.

The few commercial rappers who call themselves Cuban-Americans tend to hail from white families who fled in the early days of Fidel Castro's revolution. Their families lost everything in the revolution, but earned it back in the United States. As a result, these rappers tend to speak of their "Cubanidad," or Cuban identity, as one of a rapid struggle back to the top.

Cuban rap, on the other hand, is primarily a product of poor, urban Afro-Cubans. They use beats and rhymes to confront Cuba's deeply entrenched and equally denied racism and economic inequality, problems that the revolutionary leaders promised, but failed, to solve."


http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkyJmZnYmVs N2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2NjkwNDA5

[kerberos]

Hahaha, I noticed that too. People always call Latin Americans(and lots of them call themselves) Spanish even though they're not from Spain.
as well as people from the united states call themselves Americans, even though America is a continent covering all the contries in north and latin america, from alaska to tierra de fuego.

[Da_Last_Word]

as well as people from the united states call themselves Americans, even though America is a continent covering all the contries in north and latin america, from alaska to tierra de fuego.

Yeah we do that. Even though I know it's offensive and arrogant because America is much more than the U.S. Atleast I don't call myself English though just because I speak English LOL. And I call myself American out of habit though, most Latinos call themselves Spanish out of ignorance, not knowing the difference between a Spanish person and a Spanish speaking person. Like I'll be like 'you're not Spanish' and they'll argue forever. The average Latin American thinks that Spanish is their primary language too.

P.S. starting from today I'm going to call myself North American.

[kerberos]

Yeah we do that. Even though I know it's offensive and arrogant because America is much more than the U.S. Atleast I don't call myself English though just because I speak English LOL. And I call myself American out of habit though, most Latinos call themselves Spanish out of ignorance, not knowing the difference between a Spanish person and a Spanish speaking person. Like I'll be like 'you're not Spanish' and they'll argue forever. The average Latin American thinks that Spanish is their primary language too.

P.S. starting from today I'm going to call myself North American.
i havent meet anyone that call himself/herself spanish just because they speak spanish, but if some one do it, is just plain ignorance.
with respect to the average latin american thinking spanish is their primary language, they are right, because if you havent noticed spanish is the official languange in most of the latinamerican countries. unless you was refering to Castellian as the language, which is the real name, but even the most educated white person reffers to castellian as spanish.

P.S. i think the united states is the only contry that doesnt have a name for their citizens related to the name of the country.

[DESI BOY]

I Am A Political Refugeee :(





































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[Da_Last_Word]

i havent meet anyone that call himself/herself spanish just because they speak spanish, but if some one do it, is just plain ignorance.
with respect to the average latin american thinking spanish is their primary language, they are right, because if you havent noticed spanish is the official languange in most of the latinamerican countries. unless you was refering to Castellian as the language, which is the real name, but even the most educated white person reffers to castellian as spanish.

P.S. i think the united states is the only contry that doesnt have a name for their citizens related to the name of the country.

Oh, U.S. born Latinos do it all the time. I'm sure a person from Latin America would never do it though. And most North Americans in general think that anybody who speaks Spanish is Spanish.

As for the primary language thing...It depends on which way you look at it. Like in Mexico for example. The original language of the Mexican people was Nahuatl. It's pre-columbian. But it's the only language that most of them know so it is the primary language of modern day Mexicans. English is my primary language but it's not the primary language of blacks. That's what I was getting at. A lot of U.S. born Latinos think that Spanish was always their language.

Yeah, I think we are the only nation with a title that has nothing to do with the country. I've wondered about this too. LOL. But you can't do too much with U.S. though. United Statesican LOL.

[SexyChula69]

i dun kno how ppl could admire che,fidel or any otha communist



his ideals have killed many of my ppl and his own cuban ppl alike.


but i guess since mos ppl in da US lived here all they lives, they cant see what communism really does and why it doesn't work.


communist idealists and revolutionaries have killed thousands of our own latinos and uneducated misinformed assholes walk around wit that bastards face on their shirts.

if u got a che shirt, u deserva a asswhoopin or 2


face it, communism dont work. never has n it prolly never will.


i cant wait till el fifo dies, maybe i can go to med skool cheap


4Real! i dunno how anyonye can wear something wit a communist face on it!! dats jus wrong!! Fidel and Che are bad people!! if you rockin a shirt wit any communist face on it den you jus Sick!!!

[c-boy]

ok im a muslim desi. i havent had much education about che and fidel. but from what i read and saw in documentaries, i admire both of them.

im asking, i was rocking a che shirt in philly one time, and this colombian dude got offended by it. he didnt get all angry but instead he told me why he hated che so much. i still think che and fidel are geniuses. even though fidel i think had something to do with che's assasination.

i dont hate either of em...and Fidel, and the CIA had Che killed...it was when Banzer was president in Bolivia...they killed him in Vallegrande...so Bolivia, Cuba, and USA both had a part in killing him.

[wenset]

There are several reasons why Castro is hated by Cuban whites,

1. Communism. Many of the white cubans would like to see Cuba turned into a capitalist society. However, their mode of Capitalism is similar to that found in other Latin America states i.e. blacks work as modern slaves while the whites make all the money.

2. Castro has managed to do what NO OTHER country in the Americas has. His country has the most educated and literate black population in the Americas. Thats why many Blacks in Cuba support him. This is what makes America hate him more.

3. He also has a policy of non discrimination. Although it isn't a complete success, compared to other latin America countries, blacks have jobs. Though not many are found in top positions but if you compare to other latin america countries, Cuba is sweeeeettt!!!!

If Clinton is the most loved white man in Black America, Castro is definately the most loved white man in Black Africa.

He has done alot to help black african countries even if his country continues to suffer under the embargo placed on it by the USA.

In short, the white cubans (most of them in Miami) want castro out so that they can turn it into Brazil or Columbia. The blacks and mulattos (who are the majority) in Cuba want him to stay. Chances of America invading Cuba are nil not only because of the disaster that was Bay of Pigs but also because Cuba is the only country in Central America that could turn America into a parking lot since it has access to Nuclear weapons.

So be careful about what you read regarding Castro, most of it is propaganda.

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that is what he did, he pretty much kicked the rich outta cuba (white cubans) and into miami.

lots of these rich white cubans are jewish, that is why miami's rich neighborhoods have rich jews who speak spanish.

cuba's white are really white, not like brazil or puerto rico's white, where a light skin mestizo claims to be white

cuba had a well stablished white elite, similar to that of bolivia nowadays; mostly of spaniard, russian and french descent, also many white cubans were of white american descent, because pre castro days, cuba was a hot spot for white americans.

they were about 55% of the island's population and blacks and mulatos were 40%, the remaining 5% were mostly chinese descent, or arabic, today whites make up 25%

most cuban whites who left the island, live in other latin american countries,or in the USA, and the chinese, arabs etc, mostly migrated to other latin american countries, panama has a sizable asian-cuban population.

while most blacks, ( who castro called his people and the ones who helped him with the revolution remained in the island, today cuba is about 75% black, mostly very educated but poor black people.

something similar is happening with bolivia, the indians are organizing and kicking the white government out, there has been riots in la paz these last days and many rich white bolivians are fleeing into chile and peru.

[Da_Last_Word]

There are several reasons why Castro is hated by Cuban whites,

1. Communism. Many of the white cubans would like to see Cuba turned into a capitalist society. However, their mode of Capitalism is similar to that found in other Latin America states i.e. blacks work as modern slaves while the whites make all the money.

2. Castro has managed to do what NO OTHER country in the Americas has. His country has the most educated and literate black population in the Americas. Thats why many Blacks in Cuba support him. This is what makes America hate him more.

3. He also has a policy of non discrimination. Although it isn't a complete success, compared to other latin America countries, blacks have jobs. Though not many are found in top positions but if you compare to other latin america countries, Cuba is sweeeeettt!!!!

If Clinton is the most loved white man in Black America, Castro is definately the most loved white man in Black Africa.

He has done alot to help black african countries even if his country continues to suffer under the embargo placed on it by the USA.

In short, the white cubans (most of them in Miami) want castro out so that they can turn it into Brazil or Columbia. The blacks and mulattos (who are the majority) in Cuba want him to stay. Chances of America invading Cuba are nil not only because of the disaster that was Bay of Pigs but also because Cuba is the only country in Central America that could turn America into a parking lot since it has access to Nuclear weapons.

So be careful about what you read regarding Castro, most of it is propaganda.

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that is what he did, he pretty much kicked the rich outta cuba (white cubans) and into miami.

lots of these rich white cubans are jewish, that is why miami's rich neighborhoods have rich jews who speak spanish.

cuba's white are really white, not like brazil or puerto rico's white, where a light skin mestizo claims to be white

cuba had a well stablished white elite, similar to that of bolivia nowadays; mostly of spaniard, russian and french descent, also many white cubans were of white american descent, because pre castro days, cuba was a hot spot for white americans.

they were about 55% of the island's population and blacks and mulatos were 40%, the remaining 5% were mostly chinese descent, or arabic, today whites make up 25%

most cuban whites who left the island, live in other latin american countries,or in the USA, and the chinese, arabs etc, mostly migrated to other latin american countries, panama has a sizable asian-cuban population.

while most blacks, ( who castro called his people and the ones who helped him with the revolution remained in the island, today cuba is about 75% black, mostly very educated but poor black people.

something similar is happening with bolivia, the indians are organizing and kicking the white government out, there has been riots in la paz these last days and many rich white bolivians are fleeing into chile and peru.

Good post, you said everything that I said and more. White Cubans are bitter because they've been taken down a few notches and they can't stand being put on the same level as black Cubans. What irks them worse than mediocrity is being placed on the same level as blacks so lots of them would rather flee to Miami than be equal to blacks. But I'm sure whites anywhere would do the same thing. If Bush just start knocking white Americans down to black Americans level I bet they would leave the country like little bitches too because they don't have much experience in struggling financially and they think they're better than blacks. So all of you Castro haters can suck a dick.

[DESI BOY]

Who Gives A Fuk

[Da_Last_Word]

Who Gives A Fuk

I do! :D

[richardc]

I think most hispanics in our generation tend to like Che and Fidel. However there are those people that dislike Fidel such as some people of Cuban descent. Che on the other hand is loved much more than he was ten years ago. Fidel is also not as popular for several reasons first he had Che killed, second we live in a democratic land that won't allow for people to wear Fidel designs, and lastly he's still alive. People become heroes only after they die.

[XRitaX]

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[ignacioMejias]

There are several reasons why Castro is hated by Cuban whites,

1. Communism. Many of the white cubans would like to see Cuba turned into a capitalist society. However, their mode of Capitalism is similar to that found in other Latin America states i.e. blacks work as modern slaves while the whites make all the money.

2. Castro has managed to do what NO OTHER country in the Americas has. His country has the most educated and literate black population in the Americas. Thats why many Blacks in Cuba support him. This is what makes America hate him more.

3. He also has a policy of non discrimination. Although it isn't a complete success, compared to other latin America countries, blacks have jobs. Though not many are found in top positions but if you compare to other latin america countries, Cuba is sweeeeettt!!!!

If Clinton is the most loved white man in Black America, Castro is definately the most loved white man in Black Africa.

He has done alot to help black african countries even if his country continues to suffer under the embargo placed on it by the USA.

In short, the white cubans (most of them in Miami) want castro out so that they can turn it into Brazil or Columbia. The blacks and mulattos (who are the majority) in Cuba want him to stay. Chances of America invading Cuba are nil not only because of the disaster that was Bay of Pigs but also because Cuba is the only country in Central America that could turn America into a parking lot since it has access to Nuclear weapons.

So be careful about what you read regarding Castro, most of it is propaganda.

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that is what he did, he pretty much kicked the rich outta cuba (white cubans) and into miami.

lots of these rich white cubans are jewish, that is why miami's rich neighborhoods have rich jews who speak spanish.

cuba's white are really white, not like brazil or puerto rico's white, where a light skin mestizo claims to be white

cuba had a well stablished white elite, similar to that of bolivia nowadays; mostly of spaniard, russian and french descent, also many white cubans were of white american descent, because pre castro days, cuba was a hot spot for white americans.

they were about 55% of the island's population and blacks and mulatos were 40%, the remaining 5% were mostly chinese descent, or arabic, today whites make up 25%

most cuban whites who left the island, live in other latin american countries,or in the USA, and the chinese, arabs etc, mostly migrated to other latin american countries, panama has a sizable asian-cuban population.

while most blacks, ( who castro called his people and the ones who helped him with the revolution remained in the island, today cuba is about 75% black, mostly very educated but poor black people.

something similar is happening with bolivia, the indians are organizing and kicking the white government out, there has been riots in la paz these last days and many rich white bolivians are fleeing into chile and peru.


Wow, I liked all the articulate opinions you've put up there. Even though I don't trust your views %100 :) I appreciate the amount of cool data you have given.

[hotdominican1]

hell no que viva el che hasta la victoria siempre in dr we love him ..........dominicans and cubans have b coz we like el che and fidel it just came outa in the news in miami

[El Fantasma]

ok im a muslim desi. i havent had much education about che and fidel. but from what i read and saw in documentaries, i admire both of them.

im asking, i was rocking a che shirt in philly one time, and this colombian dude got offended by it. he didnt get all angry but instead he told me why he hated che so much. i still think che and fidel are geniuses. even though fidel i think had something to do with che's assasination.
Colombians, are 50/50 on the situations with the USA and Venezuela, Cuba, and Che.
Depends on who you talk to.

[C Gunz174]

que viva che !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAT RED FLAG SHALL STAND HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[El Fantasma]

que viva che !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAT RED FLAG SHALL STAND HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bajo de la estrella negra somos unidos.

[C Gunz174]

Bajo de la estrella negra somos unidos.
siempre mi pana

LEFT IS RIGHT.

[C Gunz174]

n all yall hating ass niggas fuck off que viva Fidel
i dare ya muthafuckas to look or even try to go to Cuba during dat u.s. ho Batista's reign

[pinolero24]

Que Viva Sandino

Que Viva La Patria

El PUEBLO UNIDO JAMAS SERA VENCIDO!

[abrupt]

as said before. when fidel nationalized everything, and brought in some equality between his people, most whites (who where "suprisingly" rich) that owned many of the companies left to other places (like USA). and what Che wanted to do forever was to goto war with the US. most of you are all VERY undereducated on Che, Fidel, Cuban revolution, and the way shit was back in those times. so dont make a post if you dont know shit. the US was (and still is) raping latin american countries for there resources, and the countries dont see any of the profits, or resources.

so in short if your knowladge is limited, go read a book or shut the fuck up.

[C Gunz174]

as said before. when fidel nationalized everything, and brought in some equality between his people, most whites (who where "suprisingly" rich) that owned many of the companies left to other places (like USA). and what Che wanted to do forever was to goto war with the US. most of you are all VERY undereducated on Che, Fidel, Cuban revolution, and the way shit was back in those times. so dont make a post if you dont know shit. the US was (and still is) raping latin american countries for there resources, and the countries dont see any of the profits, or resources.

so in short if your knowladge is limited, go read a book or shut the fuck up.
most of deez anti commies/socialist are basicly brainwashed idiots with very little understanding of the situation

(for all u CNN watchas)n for da last fucking time Fidel IS NOT A COMMUNIST

[~moreno~]

figured this thread had to be a year old... stupid racist people ran away all the non-hispanics faggots :neutral:

[C Gunz174]

as said before. when fidel nationalized everything, and brought in some equality between his people, most whites (who where "suprisingly" rich) that owned many of the companies left to other places (like USA). and what Che wanted to do forever was to goto war with the US. most of you are all VERY undereducated on Che, Fidel, Cuban revolution, and the way shit was back in those times. so dont make a post if you dont know shit. the US was (and still is) raping latin american countries for there resources, and the countries dont see any of the profits, or resources.

so in short if your knowladge is limited, go read a book or shut the fuck up.


imma have to say no to dat one doggies
Wen Ernesto went to the United Nations after Kennedy's election he told the U.S. he DID NOT WANT WAR while waving a olive branch

Dis was right after the bay of pigs invasion
Che requested that cuba be left alone

add in: if anything da U.S. wanted war wit Che,becuz Che was reinforcing leftist groups throughout those times dat werent attacking the U.S. but there kleptocracys. The U.S. would den send backup to destroy deez groups

[cityboymia3o5]

old thread :no:

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imma have to say no to dat one doggies
Wen Ernesto went to the United Nations after Kennedy's election he told the U.S. he DID NOT WANT WAR while waving a olive branch

Dis was right after the bay of pigs invasion
Che requested that cuba be left alone

add in: if anything da U.S. wanted war wit Che,becuz Che was reinforcing leftist groups throughout those times dat werent attacking the U.S. but there kleptocracys. The U.S. would den send backup to destroy deez groups

Che hated the US. he even told his first born that she would have to one day fight against the US. he saw them as a imperialist, country rapist.

after the bay of pigs invasion he THANKED the US for the invasion, because it was a huge moral booster n helped the revolution.

he always dreamed of going to war with them.

[TX COLOMBIANO]

as said before. when fidel nationalized everything, and brought in some equality between his people, most whites (who where "suprisingly" rich) that owned many of the companies left to other places (like USA). What equality? Have you even been to Cuba or known any recent ex-pats to support your claims of racial equality? The blacks STILL do the dirtiest menial jobs, and guess who's in power? WHITEY!

and what Che wanted to do forever was to goto war with the US. most of you are all VERY undereducated on Che, Fidel, Cuban revolution, and the way shit was back in those times. so dont make a post if you dont know shit. the US was (and still is) raping latin american countries for there resources, and the countries dont see any of the profits, or resources.

so in short if your knowladge is limited, go read a book or shut the fuck upAnd as Castro proved it, without the US raping them, the countries will do it to themselves. Political prisoners and assassinations aren't too pleasant now are they? Looks like you don't know too much about leftist guerillas in Latin America.


There are reasons why people's romanticized fairytales of "good" communism don't get put into practice.

Capitalism > Socialism/Marxism etc. One system has the poor eating shit while the other equally distributes shit to its people and keeps them from suceeding.

Guess what system killed 100 MILLION people in Russia.

[LitoWeapN]

lol @ moreno

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What equality? Have you even been to Cuba or known any recent ex-pats to support your claims of racial equality? The blacks STILL do the dirtiest menial jobs, and guess who's in power? WHITEY!

as said before. when fidel nationalized everything, and brought in some equality between his people, most whites (who where "suprisingly" rich) that owned many of the companies left to other places (like USA).


And as Castro proved it, without the US raping them, the countries will do it to themselves. Political prisoners and assassinations aren't too pleasant now are they? Looks like you don't know too much about leftist guerillas in Latin America.


There are reasons why people's romanticized fairytales of "good" communism don't get put into practice.

Capitalism > Socialism/Marxism etc. One system has the poor eating shit while the other equally distributes shit to its people and keeps them from suceeding.

Guess what system killed 100 MILLION people in Russia.

i know, castro right now.. is fucked up and also back in late 60s was what i see as his more prominent downfall to corruption and greed.

i dont see much good of communisim, i only like very few points of it. i have the biggest problem with where all the money goes.

[C Gunz174]

i know, castro right now.. is fucked up and also back in late 60s was what i see as his more prominent downfall to corruption and greed.

i dont see much good of communisim, i only like very few points of it. i have the biggest problem with where all the money goes.
dere is no money in communism
Communism has NEVER been displayed-maybe once back in ancient times wit da natives-and that would be considered primitive communism

all red revolutionarys dat were succesful were a variety of Socialism
claiming dey were communist(simply under da influence of its teachings) but didn't implement Communism ,in orda to create Communism as Marx explained it, u first need Socialism, on a large scale at that.

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dere is no money in communism
Communism has NEVER been displayed-maybe once back in ancient times wit da natives-and that would be considered primitive communism

all red revolutionarys dat were succesful were a variety of Socialism
claiming dey were communist(simply under da influence of its teachings) but didn't implement Communism ,in orda to create Communism as Marx explained it, u first need Socialism, on a large scale at that.

i tihnk i remember u sayin before "communisim has never been practised to what marx said" so what is the right way?
and what u mean socialisim on large scale?

and how rich u think fidel is right now?

[C Gunz174]

i tihnk i remember u sayin before "communisim has never been practised to what marx said" so what is the right way?
and what u mean socialisim on large scale?

and how rich u think fidel is right now?
to sum up da right way in a few words.

right way-a classless stateless society
no money ,as stated above stateless as in no cops
no class everything is to benefit the community
da destruction of money is simply becuz Money creates Classes
da poor/rich/middle. its primary goal is to abolish Capitalism.


Socialism needs to spread becuz da tru purpose of socialism is to abolish Capitalism , socialism wants to create a middle class wit dat middle class u have a much easier acess to removin money but socialism must spread becuz theres still gonna be many other countries with money so trading will be very hard .

Fidel=30 billion

With da paying of da embargo costing it round 4-5 billion yearly.
da embargo is destroying its economy in all reality.
overall reason i like Fidel is becuz-
he has increased women's rights and positions
has distributed more wealth to the workers.dont get me wrong Cuba still has Capitalism pero its about 20% currently.
free health care, before Fidel da literacy rate was really bad with like 50% of da population being able to read and write..now about 97% of Cuba can read and write
Increased life span, it has poverty pero compared to other Latin American countries it shows off in that category.
Has one of da lowest unemployments in da WORLD.(Even lower then the U.S.)

If u dont like Che and Fidel its cool but these are specifically my reasons why i support them(well Fidel in this case lol)

[C Gunz174]

Que Viva Sandino

Que Viva La Patria

El PUEBLO UNIDO JAMAS SERA VENCIDO!
Ortega is running for president. wat is ur opinion?

[chiggidychinaman]

all i have ever learned of che was that he was the equivalent of huey newton of the black panthers

but he has become more of a fashion statement in the present i agree

but people should have knowledge of his steelo if they gonna rock him on a shirt

but if people think its cool to wear it, ya cantreally hold it against them....it is kind of like bruce lee, and chinese writing, if they are rockin it, it jus means they are open to that culture so why hate


i dontknow if latino's hate them, buti rarely see a latino rock che, but more talk of whathe did

[C Gunz174]

all i have ever learned of che was that he was the equivalent of huey newton of the black panthers

but he has become more of a fashion statement in the present i agree

but people should have knowledge of his steelo if they gonna rock him on a shirt

but if people think its cool to wear it, ya cantreally hold it against them....it is kind of like bruce lee, and chinese writing, if they are rockin it, it jus means they are open to that culture so why hate


i dontknow if latino's hate them, buti rarely see a latino rock che, but more talk of whathe did
long live Lil Dragon!

[chiggidychinaman]

long live Lil Dragon!


ya heard :dance3:

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all i have ever learned of che was that he was the equivalent of huey newton of the black panthers

but he has become more of a fashion statement in the present i agree

but people should have knowledge of his steelo if they gonna rock him on a shirt

but if people think its cool to wear it, ya cantreally hold it against them....it is kind of like bruce lee, and chinese writing, if they are rockin it, it jus means they are open to that culture so why hate


i dontknow if latino's hate them, buti rarely see a latino rock che, but more talk of whathe did

ive tested a few people ive seen wearin che shirts. luckily for them they knew something.

i once saw in a store a pice of him with "i dont know who this is" at the bottem of the shirt. fucked up

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to sum up da right way in a few words.

right way-a classless stateless society
no money ,as stated above stateless as in no cops
no class everything is to benefit the community
da destruction of money is simply becuz Money creates Classes
da poor/rich/middle. its primary goal is to abolish Capitalism.


Socialism needs to spread becuz da tru purpose of socialism is to abolish Capitalism , socialism wants to create a middle class wit dat middle class u have a much easier acess to removin money but socialism must spread becuz theres still gonna be many other countries with money so trading will be very hard .

Fidel=30 billion

With da paying of da embargo costing it round 4-5 billion yearly.
da embargo is destroying its economy in all reality.
overall reason i like Fidel is becuz-
he has increased women's rights and positions
has distributed more wealth to the workers.dont get me wrong Cuba still has Capitalism pero its about 20% currently.
free health care, before Fidel da literacy rate was really bad with like 50% of da population being able to read and write..now about 97% of Cuba can read and write
Increased life span, it has poverty pero compared to other Latin American countries it shows off in that category.
Has one of da lowest unemployments in da WORLD.(Even lower then the U.S.)

If u dont like Che and Fidel its cool but these are specifically my reasons why i support them(well Fidel in this case lol)

ya people dont realize he has done some good. like u said bout trujillo, he did SOME good. other times wernt as good.

im not that much into reading about communisim (im gettin there) but i know somthing. and also i know there are people going to be born in that country that have greed, and they cant be in a place where they cant be rich.

personally, id rather fight n struggle for a cause thatll make me and others happy, then to fight and struggle, and fuck over people, to satisfy some greed.

[chiggidychinaman]

ive tested a few people ive seen wearin che shirts. luckily for them they knew something.

i once saw in a store a pice of him with "i dont know who this is" at the bottem of the shirt. fucked up


well che has overtaken malcolm x as most popular revolutionary figure for fashion

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well che has overtaken malcolm x as most popular revolutionary figure for fashion

when che was in NY, he had chance to speak to a crowd with malcolm, but instead he wrote a short letter that malcolm read to the crowd.

[C Gunz174]

when che was in NY, he had chance to speak to a crowd with malcolm, but instead he wrote a short letter that malcolm read to the crowd.
fidel met malcom tho.

[C Gunz174]

ya people dont realize he has done some good. like u said bout trujillo, he did SOME good. other times wernt as good.

im not that much into reading about communisim (im gettin there) but i know somthing. and also i know there are people going to be born in that country that have greed, and they cant be in a place where they cant be rich.

personally, id rather fight n struggle for a cause thatll make me and others happy, then to fight and struggle, and fuck over people, to satisfy some greed.
Ok but dont forget
CUBA IS NOT COMMUNIST
its BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALIST.

[C Gunz174]

ya people dont realize he has done some good. like u said bout trujillo, he did SOME good. other times wernt as good.

im not that much into reading about communisim (im gettin there) but i know somthing. and also i know there are people going to be born in that country that have greed, and they cant be in a place where they cant be rich.

personally, id rather fight n struggle for a cause thatll make me and others happy, then to fight and struggle, and fuck over people, to satisfy some greed.
deres a difference tho.

Trujillo did good as far as da country itself goes but not the PEOPLE specifically.
wat i brought up was ways that Fidel betters the peoples life in Cuba.
of course its still shitty as i explained above but its much much better then Batista's reign.

[abrupt]

fidel met malcom tho.

i think che did 2


i needa do more readin on everything. i cant find some books i want tho..

[C Gunz174]

i think che did 2


i needa do more readin on everything. i cant find some books i want tho..
http://i11.tinypic.com/2r77k3l.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/47an720.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/43557xg.jpg

just go to bn.com
and search for the books u lookin for.
if its any topic specifically i can try recommendin u sum dat i want as well dat got high reviews.

[chiggidychinaman]

when che was in NY, he had chance to speak to a crowd with malcolm, but instead he wrote a short letter that malcolm read to the crowd.


that must have been pretty intense

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http://i11.tinypic.com/2r77k3l.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/47an720.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/43557xg.jpg

just go to bn.com
and search for the books u lookin for.
if its any topic specifically i can try recommendin u sum dat i want as well dat got high reviews.

as for the moment i got no time to read, but ima bring it up in soon future.

u read Che Guevara : A Revolutionary Life?

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that must have been pretty intense

if it happend, hella ya

[C Gunz174]

that must have been pretty intense
Yep that day harlem turned into a pro-fidel/che area

[C Gunz174]

as for the moment i got no time to read, but ima bring it up in soon future.

u read Che Guevara : A Revolutionary Life?
Got it. im up to page 701 alreadi.

Great biography. DEF. BUY IT.

[chiggidychinaman]

http://i11.tinypic.com/2r77k3l.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/47an720.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/43557xg.jpg

just go to bn.com
and search for the books u lookin for.
if its any topic specifically i can try recommendin u sum dat i want as well dat got high reviews.


LOL......malcolm x looks like a black version of michael douglas character in "FALLEN"

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Got it. im up to page 701 alreadi.

Great biography. DEF. BUY IT.

hah im on pg 638. only bout 150 more to go

i bough empires workshop, im still tryin to finish the biography

[LitoWeapN]

http://i11.tinypic.com/2r77k3l.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/47an720.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/43557xg.jpg

just go to bn.com
and search for the books u lookin for.
if its any topic specifically i can try recommendin u sum dat i want as well dat got high reviews.
see @ least the pres of cuba likes niggas



everyone misunderstands fidel me personally i think he real smart


u gots to b to run a country that long

[C Gunz174]

hah im on pg 638. only bout 150 more to go

i bough empires workshop, im still tryin to finish the biography
u shud get the communist manifesto if u havent alreadi

karl marx's explain dat history is basicly a class struggle.

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u shud get the communist manifesto if u havent alreadi

karl marx's explain dat history is basicly a class struggle.

maybe. and ya class has always been a problem since begining

[C Gunz174]

maybe. and ya class has always been a problem since begining
anotha good book written by the Anarchist Noam Chomsky-What uncle sam really wants.

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html

^complete book dere. dey have it seperated by chapters.

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anotha good book written by the Anarchist Noam Chomsky-What uncle sam really wants.

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html

^complete book dere. dey have it seperated by chapters.

ill get on that sometime

[abrupt]

anotha good book written by the Anarchist Noam Chomsky-What uncle sam really wants.

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html

^complete book dere. dey have it seperated by chapters.

i was in book store n i saw bunch of chomsky books. probly bout 6 -8 all defacing US

[L.aTraviesa]

I hate when people go against fidel and his revolution but dont take into consideration what condition Cuba would be in today if it hadnt happened...All you have to do is look at other countries controlled by capitalism and hating it...the citizens wouldnt be as highly educated, it would be relying on foreign aid, and probably would have gone thru several more wars setting it back, and poverty? the majority of the people would be in poverty...it only hurt the rich, but it seems there the only people with voices in the society anyways...

and how many people have died as a result of capitalism...communist revolutions are effect of it...

democracy kills aparently too...how many died to create a civilised government where they hang people(still dont get it mr.bush) in Iraq:rolleyes:

its not the best system but it is the lesser of two evils...

[C Gunz174]

I hate when people go against fidel and his revolution but dont take into consideration what condition Cuba would be in today if it hadnt happened...All you have to do is look at other countries controlled by capitalism and hating it...the citizens wouldnt be as highly educated, it would be relying on foreign aid, and probably would have gone thru several more wars setting it back, and poverty? the majority of the people would be in poverty...it only hurt the rich, but it seems there the only people with voices in the society anyways...

and how many people have died as a result of capitalism...communist revolutions are effect of it...

democracy kills aparently too...how many died to create a civilised government where they hang people(still dont get it mr.bush) in Iraq:rolleyes:

its not the best system but it is the lesser of two evils...

:love:

even tho cuba is not Communist(its socialist) and communism is not evil.

still love u for supporting da leftist :Pelvic2:

[L.aTraviesa]

:love:

even tho cuba is not Communist(its socialist) and communism is not evil.

still love u for supporting da leftist :Pelvic2:

I think communism in theory is great...pero I think it can be evil when not executed in the true form...

and I love you for your opinions too :love: lol

[C Gunz174]

I think communism in theory is great...pero I think it can be evil when not executed in the true form...

and I love you for your opinions too :love: lol
Well if you love the theory then u must love its practice..which is the society.
Besides every so called Communist that claims he was communist actually implemented Socialism..because they never removed money,gov.,class etc.
only Communist i know that actually did a lil bit of what Communism actually is was Che..when he did volunteer work in Cuba every sunday.

:love: havent talked to u inna while

[L.aTraviesa]

Well if you love the theory then u must love its practice..which is the society.
Besides every so called Communist that claims he was communist actually implemented Socialism..because they never removed money,gov.,class etc.
only Communist i know that actually did a lil bit of what Communism actually is was Che..when he did volunteer work in Cuba every sunday.

:love: havent talked to u inna while

true havnt spoken in a while...how u been?

[C Gunz174]

true havnt spoken in a while...how u been?
i've been good y tu.

[L.aTraviesa]

i've been good y tu.

I been aight I suppose...moved trying to get back into my groove build up connections and what not lol

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Well if you love the theory then u must love its practice..which is the society.
Besides every so called Communist that claims he was communist actually implemented Socialism..because they never removed money,gov.,class etc.
only Communist i know that actually did a lil bit of what Communism actually is was Che..when he did volunteer work in Cuba every sunday.

:love: havent talked to u inna while

i finally understood what u meant by socialisim, and communisim. i work with this white due from texas. and he pretty much is what ud expect. its funny how angry i can get em when i praise communisim and its theries, hah it gets me thru the day. even thou i dont see communisim as the answer.

hah u learned a whole lot from that book 2 ic. that volenteer work says a hell of a lot, and if Che was still kickin he would be the one to run a successful communist country

[abrupt]

I been aight I suppose...moved trying to get back into my groove build up connections and what not lol

where u move to?

[C Gunz174]

i finally understood what u meant by socialisim, and communisim. i work with this white due from texas. and he pretty much is what ud expect. its funny how angry i can get em when i praise communisim and its theries, hah it gets me thru the day. even thou i dont see communisim as the answer.

hah u learned a whole lot from that book 2 ic. that volenteer work says a hell of a lot, and if Che was still kickin he would be the one to run a successful communist country
not only from the biography. but also i learned a lot from the auto bio of malcom n of course the communist manifesto,internet articles,e-books,noam chomsky speeches


a good war tactic book is none other den the art of war by sun tzu
imma buy a method on guerilla warfare.-by Che

n yep too bad Che couldnt run his own country but eh. he wouldnt want to run it anyway lol
glad you kno whats tru Communism as well as Socialism(tho socialism varies in many forms)
by the way what did that Texan say about Communism?

[C Gunz174]

by the way show ur Texan friend this :p

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5976/montreal20061028lz7.jpg

Canadian Leftists burning canadian flag
waving Communist and Socialist flag.

Incase he a patriot :p

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/uploads/post-32-1094093640.jpg

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/uploads/post-32-1093980936.jpg

[abrupt]

not only from the biography. but also i learned a lot from the auto bio of malcom n of course the communist manifesto,internet articles,e-books,noam chomsky speeches


a good war tactic book is none other den the art of war by sun tzu
imma buy a method on guerilla warfare.-by Che

n yep too bad Che couldnt run his own country but eh. he wouldnt want to run it anyway lol
glad you kno whats tru Communism as well as Socialism(tho socialism varies in many forms)
by the way what did that Texan say about Communism?

where the hell would you get the guerilla warfare book by Che?

and the texan said pretty much what youd expect from a white texan about communisim. he supports bush.

[abrupt]

not only from the biography. but also i learned a lot from the auto bio of malcom n of course the communist manifesto,internet articles,e-books,noam chomsky speeches


a good war tactic book is none other den the art of war by sun tzu
imma buy a method on guerilla warfare.-by Che

n yep too bad Che couldnt run his own country but eh. he wouldnt want to run it anyway lol
glad you kno whats tru Communism as well as Socialism(tho socialism varies in many forms)
by the way what did that Texan say about Communism?

where the hell would you get the guerilla warfare book by Che?

and the texan said pretty much what youd expect from a white texan about communisim. he supports bush. i think i wanna tape some convos when i get him angry

[abrupt]

by the way show ur Texan friend this :p

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5976/montreal20061028lz7.jpg

Canadian Leftists burning canadian flag
waving Communist and Socialist flag.

Incase he a patriot :p

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/uploads/post-32-1094093640.jpg

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/uploads/post-32-1093980936.jpg

what site that off of?

n i cant see last 2 pics

[C Gunz174]

where the hell would you get the guerilla warfare book by Che?

and the texan said pretty much what youd expect from a white texan about communisim. he supports bush.
http://www.mpi-web.net/rwm/gw.html

only 2.50 there . its real. it just that its a site supported by leftist for discount on alot of leftist books/cds etc.

so u can buy mad shit from it for low ass prices.
U can also download it in a torrent site. i have it but i prefer to buy the book instead. i cant stand e-books they annoying.

edit: if u prefer a barnes n nobles version: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780842026789&itm=7
still written by him since it says by ernesto guevara

[C Gunz174]

what the texan said wen u explained Communism true attempt?

[C Gunz174]

what site that off of?

n i cant see last 2 pics
oh na dat was posted in a thread in revolutionaryleft.com

[C Gunz174]

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0803270755&id=WOgZd8xPscgC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=che+guerilla+warfare&sig=KJ_4a27Y6FVlr2KW66EFqWhqrdE

Che-guerilla warfare.
i dont think you can read the whole thing tho.

cuz if i member correctly i tried to and for some reason couldnt

[abrupt]

what the texan said wen u explained Communism true attempt?

he said it will never work blah blah it does nothing for the people ect.

[abrupt]

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0803270755&id=WOgZd8xPscgC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=che+guerilla+warfare&sig=KJ_4a27Y6FVlr2KW66EFqWhqrdE

Che-guerilla warfare.
i dont think you can read the whole thing tho.

cuz if i member correctly i tried to and for some reason couldnt

meh, i juss applied for credit card bout 2 min ago. so hopefully i get approved

[TX COLOMBIANO]

I hate when people go against fidel and his revolution but dont take into consideration what condition Cuba would be in today if it hadnt happened...All you have to do is look at other countries controlled by capitalism and hating it...the citizens wouldnt be as highly educated, it would be relying on foreign aid, and probably would have gone thru several more wars setting it back, and poverty? the majority of the people would be in poverty...it only hurt the rich, but it seems there the only people with voices in the society anyways...

and how many people have died as a result of capitalism...communist revolutions are effect of it...

democracy kills aparently too...how many died to create a civilised government where they hang people(still dont get it mr.bush) in Iraq:rolleyes:

its not the best system but it is the lesser of two evils...What is??

[C Gunz174]

he said it will never work blah blah it does nothing for the people ect.
wat ha retard. if anything Communism does everything for the people

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wat ha retard. if anything Communism does everything for the people

that red world media site.. is photocopys of books, or actual books?

[C Gunz174]

that red world media site.. is photocopys of books, or actual books?
Ionno have u checked the FAQ to see if they mention something about that.
Or you can email them and ask them

[L.aTraviesa]

where u move to?

Toronto:neutral:

What is??

its impossible to have a perfect system...theres a lot of great ideas...but when applied to society they dont work out the way envisioned...

[musicchic33]

ok im a muslim desi. i havent had much education about che and fidel. but from what i read and saw in documentaries, i admire both of them.

im asking, i was rocking a che shirt in philly one time, and this colombian dude got offended by it. he didnt get all angry but instead he told me why he hated che so much. i still think che and fidel are geniuses. even though fidel i think had something to do with che's assasination.

Why rock a shirt when you don't know what it stands for?

[abrupt]

Toronto:neutral:



its impossible to have a perfect system...theres a lot of great ideas...but when applied to society they dont work out the way envisioned...

u fake?

[abrupt]

wat ha retard. if anything Communism does everything for the people
i brought it up again today. he went on about karl marx n how he conrtadicts himself. and ect, sayin he wanna report me to csis (canadian cia)

[C Gunz174]

i brought it up again today. he went on about karl marx n how he conrtadicts himself. and ect, sayin he wanna report me to csis (canadian cia)

this is the way u shut that guy up.
simply tell him what Capitalism has done in the world,just take a peak at latin america for christ sake. the asians in asia making clothes in 100 degree rooms getting paid like 3-4 dollers daily? 14 hour shifts? communist work?? lmao nope dats all CAPITALISM doggies.

oh tell him then
that while hes at it to report www.halturnershow.com as well.fucking prick.
i bought Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky todai.

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this is the way u shut that guy up.
simply tell him what Capitalism has done in the world,just take a peak at latin america for christ sake. the asians in asia making clothes in 100 degree rooms getting paid like 3-4 dollers daily? 14 hour shifts? communist work?? lmao nope dats all CAPITALISM doggies.

oh tell him then
that while hes at it to report www.halturnershow.com as well.fucking prick.
i bought Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky todai.

its pretty fucked up.

hah i recomended communist manifesto to him today

[L.aTraviesa]

u fake?

fake what i just moved here I live in east york near coxwell station, its boring as fuck...:neutral:

[ralphie82m]

ok im a muslim desi. i havent had much education about che and fidel. but from what i read and saw in documentaries, i admire both of them.

I'm asking, i was rocking a che shirt in philly one time, and this colombian dude got offended by it. he didn't get all angry but instead he told me why he hated che so much. i still think che and fidel are geniuses. even though fidel i think had something to do with che's assasination.

From an educated Dominican American's opinion I would say that I feel emotional indefferince towards Fidel Castro.... I admire his self motivation and leadership but despise his domestic policies and choice of government... overall ill say i think God or "Allah" is not waiting for him on the other side...

but i'm not gonna front i still admire his courage to stand up to the U.S even though i don't agree with him on fundamental issues...

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fake what i just moved here I live in east york near coxwell station, its boring as fuck...:neutral:

some parts of toronto boring. but everything close together so fun aint far.

u sound too cool to be real

[BOMBROTHA]

some parts of toronto boring.
Nah,YOU'RE boring. Your so-called rhymes put me to sleep. No wonder u don't have a record deal.

[L.aTraviesa]

some parts of toronto boring. but everything close together so fun aint far.

u sound too cool to be real

well so far for me its boring :neutral:

*starts pinching arms and hitting herself*
I seem to be real lol

[C Gunz174]

well so far for me its boring :neutral:

*starts pinching arms and hitting herself*
I seem to be real lol
lol ur sig is ill

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Nah,YOU'RE boring. Your so-called rhymes put me to sleep. No wonder u don't have a record deal.

my so called rhymes are so called rhymes. so it isnt a wonder i dont have a record deal, cuz im not a rapper.

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well so far for me its boring :neutral:

*starts pinching arms and hitting herself*
I seem to be real lol

how old are u

[C Gunz174]

how old are u
she is real.

but yo get Hegemony or survival by noam comsky n media control!

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she is real.

but yo get Hegemony or survival by noam comsky n media control!

i got lotta shit to do for now. im still workin on a revolutionary life. but hopefully i got approved for credit card now, then more books be accesible

lol u say she real with lotta confidence

[L.aTraviesa]

she is real.

but yo get Hegemony or survival by noam comsky


http://cache.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2006/09/000000000hippie.jpg
chavez agrees :thumb:

and im 18

and I know my sig is ill haha...thanks

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http://cache.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2006/09/000000000hippie.jpg
chavez agrees :thumb:

and im 18

and I know my sig is ill haha...thanks


there ya go 18...
goto younge st, and about queens. walk east up younge st (i think east?) anyway youll see a place that has a yellow sign that says a buncha shit and itll have PHOTO ID in large letters on sign. walk downstairs n boom get a fake id.
then party. its what i did.. i am currently known as luis flores from new brunswick

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this is the way u shut that guy up.
simply tell him what Capitalism has done in the world,just take a peak at latin america for christ sake. the asians in asia making clothes in 100 degree rooms getting paid like 3-4 dollers daily? 14 hour shifts? communist work?? lmao nope dats all CAPITALISM doggies.

oh tell him then
that while hes at it to report www.halturnershow.com as well.fucking prick.
i bought Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky todai.

he is more ignorant on other subjectsd also.. he is against immigration a LOT. and he dont get the point of whites not being alowed to say nigga.

ive decided hes all about equality tho, but only if it ONLY benifits him

[C Gunz174]

he is more ignorant on other subjectsd also.. he is against immigration a LOT. and he dont get the point of whites not being alowed to say nigga.

ive decided hes all about equality tho, but only if it ONLY benifits him
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

he is self-serving.

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:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

he is self-serving.

pretty much. n ive only worked there 2 weeks or so now..

other then those topics so far, and football, he has valid opinoins on. but those a crucial things you cant think different or u get beaten