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buttafly972
05-06-2005, 12:09 PM
I consider my self a good christian I love and forgive but I find myself unwilling to forgive someone who should be closer to me than anybody else....if one of your siblings did something to you as a child that was completely in your mind inforgivable...would you forgive them????

abrokenwhisper
05-06-2005, 12:17 PM
I consider my self a good christian I love and forgive but I find myself unwilling to forgive someone who should be closer to me than anybody else....if one of your siblings did something to you as a child that was completely in your mind inforgivable...would you forgive them????

nope cuz forgiving to me means it was ok what you did....

contender
05-06-2005, 12:35 PM
depends on what she did??? care to elaborate?

buttafly972
05-06-2005, 12:41 PM
depends on what she did??? care to elaborate?
what he did.....he is much older than I am and I was about 7 and then again at 9....

coolie_sheppard
05-06-2005, 03:58 PM
as a christian you know you have to forgive in order for christ to forgive you.....but pray for God to help you to forgive. I understand what you're going through, cuz I had a hard time with it too. But the more I stayed in the Word, in prayer and in church, the more God began working in my life and driving that unforgiveness out of me.

Forilla
05-07-2005, 10:56 AM
yeah wot did she do? :mad:

`LuCiA`
05-14-2005, 11:35 PM
I consider my self a good christian I love and forgive but I find myself unwilling to forgive someone who should be closer to me than anybody else....if one of your siblings did something to you as a child that was completely in your mind inforgivable...would you forgive them????
I know what your talking about.

Forgiveness is very hard when someone does something to you that in your mind hurt you really bad.

When someone does something to you that changes your life for the bad and makes you not trust someone its hard to forgive them.

I see myself as a good catholic. I know i've made mistakes but I believe God forgave me when I asked for forgiveness.

But I cant forgive what somebody did to me. I think it changed my life for the bad and altered the way I thought..I'm trying to fix my life, but I cant seem to forgive that person.

I think it all lies on time and prayer.

But somethings like this seem impossible to forgive.

Flow_Motion
05-15-2005, 05:36 PM
Hmmm... It's is hard to forgive... But just do it... Doesn't mean you need to establish a relationship with the individual... Just forgive and go on your own way, and leave the ordeal behind...

`LuCiA`
05-15-2005, 05:38 PM
Hmmm... It's is hard to forgive... But just do it... Doesn't mean you need to establish a relationship with the individual... Just forgive and go on your own way, and leave the ordeal behind...
Somethings I think are impossible to firgive.

Kaz
05-15-2005, 05:42 PM
I consider my self a good christian I love and forgive but I find myself unwilling to forgive someone who should be closer to me than anybody else....if one of your siblings did something to you as a child that was completely in your mind inforgivable...would you forgive them????
If you cannot learn to forgive ppl then how do you expecy God to forgive us for all the sins we have commited.

Forgiveness is the key to paradise but without practice it wont open the gates.

Flow_Motion
05-15-2005, 06:13 PM
Somethings I think are impossible to firgive.
Kinda like what Kaz said, God forgives... We too should forigve, and let God deal with the individual for their actions... As an individual, you must stay positive and strong...

`LuCiA`
05-15-2005, 06:28 PM
Kinda like what Kaz said, God forgives... We too should forigve, and let God deal with the individual for their actions... As an individual, you must stay positive and strong...
But sometimes people can do something to you that ruins your life and relationships with your family. Its hard to forgive someone when that happens.

Persian Mami
05-16-2005, 08:46 PM
If you cannot learn to forgive ppl then how do you expecy God to forgive us for all the sins we have commited.

Forgiveness is the key to paradise but without practice it wont open the gates.
i agree

Bam69u
05-18-2005, 10:21 PM
for me?............I can forgive but never forget!

El_NewbieDiablo
05-18-2005, 11:21 PM
for me?............I can forgive but never forget!


Damn man, we think alike....wtf :eek:

ricanpa14
06-12-2005, 10:35 AM
Bitterness, Resentment and Unforgiveness


by Joyce Meyer
Many people ruin their lives and their health by eating the poison of
bitterness, resentment, and unforgiveness. Matthew 18:23-35 tells us
that,
if we do not forgive people, we get turned over to the torturers. If
you
have a problem in this area or have ever had one, I am sure you bear
witness
with what I am saying. It is torture to have hateful thoughts rolling
around
inside of you toward another person.

Who Are You Helping When You Forgive?

Who are you helping the most when you forgive the person who hurt you?
Actually, you are helping yourself more than the other person. I always
looked at forgiving people who had hurt me as being a really hard thing
to
do. I thought it seemed so unfair for them to receive forgiveness when
I had
gotten hurt. I got pain, and they got free without having to pay for
the
pain they caused me. Now I realized that I am helping myself when I
choose
to forgive. I am helping the other person also by releasing them, so
God can
do what only He can do. If I am in the way, trying to get revenge or
taking
care of the situation myself instead of trusting and obeying God, He
has no
obligation to deal with that person. However, God will deal with the
people
who hurt us if we will put them in His hands through forgiveness. It is
our
seed of obedience to His Word; and once we have sown our seed, He will
bring
a harvest of blessing to us one way or another.

I am helping myself, because when I forgive I release God to work. I am
happy when I am not full of the poison of unforgiveness. I feel better
physically. Serious diseases can come as a result of the stress and
pressure
that bitterness, resentment, and unforgiveness put on a person. Mark
11:22-26 clearly teaches us that unforgiveness hinders our faith from
working. The Father cannot forgive our sins if we do not forgive other
people (we reap what we sow). Sow mercy, and you will reap mercy; sow
judgement, and you will reap judgement. Do yourself a favor and
forgive.

There are still more benefits of forgiveness. When you are willing to
forgive, your fellowship with God has a free flow. Unforgiveness blocks
it.
Paul said that we are to forgive in order to keep Satan from getting an
advantage over us (11 Corinthians 2: 10-11). Ephesians 4:26-27 says
that we
are not to let the sun go down on our anger. Do not give the devil any
such
foothold or opportunity. Remember that the devil must have a foothold
before
he can get a stronghold. Be quick to forgive. Do not help the devil
torture
you. I also think it is hard to hate one person and love another. When
we
are full of wrong things, it is hard to treat anybody right. Even
people you
want to love may be suffering from your bitterness, resentment and
unforgiveness.

How To Forgive

Like everything else, there are practical steps to forgiving people
that
must be taken if we are going to be successful at it. I asked the Lord
why
so many people seem to want to forgive and yet are not successful doing
it.
He said, "because they are not obeying what I tell them to do in the
Word."
As I searched the Word, I found the following instructions:

1. Decide. You will never forgive if you wait to feel like it. Choose
to
obey God and steadfastly resist the devil in his attempts to poison you
again with bitter thoughts. Make a quality decision, and God will heal
your
wounded emotions in due time.

2. Depend. You cannot forgive without the power of the Holy Spirit. It
is
too hard to do on your own. If you are truly willing, God will enable
you;
but you are going to need to humble yourself and cry out to Him for
help. In
John 20:22-23, Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, "Receive the
Holy
Spirit. " His next instruction was about forgiving people. We certainly
can
use this as an example and ask Him to breathe on us that we might be
able to
forgive those who hurt us.

3. Obey. There are several things we are told do in the Word concerning
forgiving our enemies.

a. Pray for your enemies and those who abuse and misuse you. Pray for
their
happiness and welfare (Luke 6:27-28 Amplified). As you pray, God may be
able
to give them revelation that will bring them out of deception. They may
not
even be aware they hurt you, or maybe they are aware but are so
self-centered that they do not care. Either way, they need revelation.

b. Bless and do not curse them (Romans 12:14). In the Greek, to bless
means
"to speak well of" and to curse means "to speak evil of." You cannot
forgive
and gossip or be a talebearer. You must stop repeating the offense. You
cannot get over it and also continue to talk about it. Proverbs 17:9
says
that he who seeks to cover an offense seeks love.

Who Should Forgive?

Forgive the person from long ago who hurt you very badly and also the
person
whom you did not know in the grocery store, for stepping on your toe.
Take
those two extremes and forgive them in addition to everyone in between.
Forgive quickly. The quicker you do it, the easier it is. Forgive
freely.
Matthew 10:8 says freely you have received, freely give. Forgiveness
means
to excuse a fault, absolve from payment, pardon, send away, cancel, and
bestow favor unconditionally.

When you forgive, you must cancel the debt. Do not spend your life
paying
and collecting debts. Hebrews 10:30 says that vengeance belongs to the
Lord;
He will repay and settle the cases of His people. Let God pay you for
past
injustices; do not try to collect from the people who hurt you, because
the
people who hurt you cannot pay you. Matthew 18:25 says ..."he could not
pay".

Also forgive yourself for past sins and for hurts you have caused
others.
You cannot pay people back, so ask God to.

Forgive God if you are angry at Him because your life did not turn out
the
way you thought it should. God is always just. There may be things you
do
not understand; but God loves you, and people make a serious mistake if
they
will not receive help from the only One who can truly help.

You may even need to forgive an object—the post office, bank, a certain
store you feel cheated you, a car that always gave you trouble, etc.
Get rid
of all poison that comes from bitterness, resentment, and
unforgiveness; and
remember Proverbs 4:23 (Amplified), "Keep and guard your heart with all
vigilance...for out of it flow the springs of life."

Unforgiveness is spiritual filthiness; get washed in the water of the
Word
and stay clean. God bless you!

LaLaLand
06-12-2005, 11:55 PM
I consider my self a good christian I love and forgive but I find myself unwilling to forgive someone who should be closer to me than anybody else....if one of your siblings did something to you as a child that was completely in your mind inforgivable...would you forgive them????

I dont know what you might have gone though but if it is very serious and if you have been wronged and if this individual has potential to wrong others in the same manner then pray to God for justice.

LaLaLand
06-12-2005, 11:56 PM
BTW what has this person done if you dont mind me asking?

la_madrina2004
06-13-2005, 01:53 AM
ah im not sure but i think its sorta sensitive ya know.....like she dont wanna spell it out....