Racism in Latin America?

[westindian]

I've heard its really bad for blacks in the Spanish speaking countries is it true.Like being black is seen as being ugly.I know in order to b black in Latin America u gotta b maxed out African.I also heard blacks r looked down upon and shit like that they r the bottom of society.Do any of u hispanics know if this is true?When i say blacks i mean African-Latino not mullato type.

[atlboi]

I've heard its really bad for blacks in the Spanish speaking countries is it true.Like being black is seen as being ugly.I know in order to b black in Latin America u gotta b maxed out African.I also heard blacks r looked down upon and shit like that they r the bottom of society.Do any of u hispanics know if this is true?When i say blacks i mean African-Latino not mullato type.


naw that shit aint true

many hispanics are black skinned toned but they still hispanic...


well there is the the hispanics who are mixed with indian and do have the brown skin toned yeah they do get looked down on... but not the black black ones... just the indian mixed ones they tend to be kinda cluelesss

[TX COLOMBIANO]

depends on were u at.


cuz in brazil blacks r poor n theres racism frum da 'white' ppl in brazil.

the skinhead movement is kinda big ova there.

in colombia, we dont hate blacks or anything, but they poor n dont realli have a voice.


in argentina, there aint 2 many black ppl, but the few that are there are treated bad.

[westindian]

Since y'all r dishing out i guess i can too.I seen some discrimination in the island of Jamaica believe it or not yeah dey may say luv Africa and shit down there but some of that colonial mentality exist.In Jamaica its like the lighter u r the better off u'll usually b.Go to a Kingston slum all u see is black.Go to an upscale neighborhood u'll see douglas,coolie,mullato,chiney and the such.

[TX COLOMBIANO]

Since y'all r dishing out i guess i can too.I seen some discrimination in the island of Jamaica believe it or not yeah dey may say luv Africa and shit down there but some of that colonial mentality exist.In Jamaica its like the lighter u r the better off u'll usually b.Go to a Kingston slum all u see is black.Go to an upscale neighborhood u'll see douglas,coolie,mullato,chiney and the such.


ye it was sumthin like dat in Rwanda

da lighter ppls were mroe ducated and lived better. da darker ppl were poor and decided to slaughter the lighter ppl. really, check out 'hotel rwanda'

[SharkBaitFace]

Oh yeah it's like that. Even when I went to Mexico City... you could see that the lighter skinned Mexicans were treated better than the darker skinned ones. We stayed at this very nice hotel and most of the help was of dark skin and the "head honchos" were light skin. You also hear about in the deeper south that it's easier for people to be light than it is to be dark because most people just see the darker people as poor and uneducated. And those are just the dark people that are not mixed (at least that I could tell) with African decent. Even here in South Texas you can see it.... and we have a shit load of Mexicans. lol People even dark skinned people seem to treat the lighter skinned ones better. It's sad.

Bleh I rambled. I'll shut up now.

[eltopo13]

What the hell that aint True, in mah country (Nicaragua) Mestizos and Blacks,
live together, marry each other, and they never have pedo with each other, only wit the gangs( whre its usually mixed)...i dunt know but most latin american countries aint like that, maybe Argentina..cuz alota people their are white and have German blood....but Central America, and sum parts of South America evrybody is just dark..so it doesnt really matter..but i dunno bout Mexico....

[OsamaBinLaden]

WTF, its not like tht in Jamaica, in Jamaica niggaz dont care how light or dark u r........ur 1 ingnorant bastard and a Jamaican wannabe

[DR lips-n-thighs]

Yeah, i know it's like that in the DR, too. Most of the people are mulatto or mixed or whatever, so they have lighter skin tones. My mom said it was hard for her growing up there (she's real dark), but you can't really point fingers cuz it's the same way it is with light skin and dark skin in America, ya know?? (if that made n e sense, lol :P)

[XxShyChicanaxX]

Oh yeah it's like that. Even when I went to Mexico City... you could see that the lighter skinned Mexicans were treated better than the darker skinned ones. We stayed at this very nice hotel and most of the help was of dark skin and the "head honchos" were light skin. You also hear about in the deeper south that it's easier for people to be light than it is to be dark because most people just see the darker people as poor and uneducated. And those are just the dark people that are not mixed (at least that I could tell) with African decent. Even here in South Texas you can see it.... and we have a shit load of Mexicans. lol People even dark skinned people seem to treat the lighter skinned ones better. It's sad.

Bleh I rambled. I'll shut up now.
not true

i live in south texas

all the hispanics jus kinda all chill together
i mean yeah sometimes theres problems but now bcuz ones lighter or darker than the other

[XxShyChicanaxX]

not true

i live in south texas

all the hispanics jus kinda all chill together
i mean yeah sometimes theres problems but now bcuz ones lighter or darker than the other
i meant:

....theres problems but NOT bcuz ones lighter or......

[xmexchiqaX]

Oh yeah it's like that. Even when I went to Mexico City... you could see that the lighter skinned Mexicans were treated better than the darker skinned ones. We stayed at this very nice hotel and most of the help was of dark skin and the "head honchos" were light skin. You also hear about in the deeper south that it's easier for people to be light than it is to be dark because most people just see the darker people as poor and uneducated. And those are just the dark people that are not mixed (at least that I could tell) with African decent. Even here in South Texas you can see it.... and we have a shit load of Mexicans. lol People even dark skinned people seem to treat the lighter skinned ones better. It's sad.

Bleh I rambled. I'll shut up now.
when you live in mexico...itz gotta be extreemly hard ta be light skinned cuz its da hard sun ova there...dos ppl must be inside da whole time...n i don think they be discriminating against each other b/c of who darker n who lighter..we mexi ppl chill w/ who ever... ;)

[DESI BOY]

I've heard its really bad for blacks in the Spanish speaking countries is it true.Like being black is seen as being ugly.I know in order to b black in Latin America u gotta b maxed out African.I also heard blacks r looked down upon and shit like that they r the bottom of society.Do any of u hispanics know if this is true?When i say blacks i mean African-Latino not mullato type.
ezee no rude bwoy
waapp u!
lara still gwanin
simme

[PRCoconut4eva]

I've heard its really bad for blacks in the Spanish speaking countries is it true.Like being black is seen as being ugly.I know in order to b black in Latin America u gotta b maxed out African.I also heard blacks r looked down upon and shit like that they r the bottom of society.Do any of u hispanics know if this is true?When i say blacks i mean African-Latino not mullato type. well some people have a problem with it but it just depends where u r at

[Da_Last_Word]

I've heard its really bad for blacks in the Spanish speaking countries is it true.Like being black is seen as being ugly.I know in order to b black in Latin America u gotta b maxed out African.I also heard blacks r looked down upon and shit like that they r the bottom of society.Do any of u hispanics know if this is true?When i say blacks i mean African-Latino not mullato type.

It doesn't really take a rocket scientist, the question is almost rhetorical. There's never been an Afro-Latino television show, there's not many blacks in high-profiled jobs, there's not many blacks in the government. And yes, the racism is worse than it is in the U.S.

Latin America might as well have Jim Crow Laws because Afro-Latinos don't have access to many of the things that white or Mestizo Latinos do. Television for example, how many blacks do you see on Spanish television? Lots of the shows still condone Black Face actors which is very offensive. Or how many blacks do you see in the government or high profiled jobs? Latin America is segregated it's just not segregated officially. A lot of the racial barriers that have been broken in the U.S. have yet to be broken in Latin America.

And while the KKK doesn't have an impact on the daily lives of blacks, Latin America's Death Squads kill blacks on a daily basis so I would be more afraid of them. And these are trained killers(retired policemen) mind you, hired to hunt down the poor, the thieves, and they say that in most cases being poor and black are synonomous.

"The government agrees here too: according to the paper handed to the UN, the victims of death squads are almost without exception poor, black men, between 15 and 24 years old, accused of petty crime."

Latin America's racism is just less...publicized. Romulo Hernandez said that is one of the differences between U.S. racism and Latin America's racism. Like the Rodney King beating, the fact that everyone knows about it proves that it was actually taken seriously, but had it been in Latin America it would probbaly wouldn't have reached the media. In fact, almost all non-white American racism is never publicized. Like the lynching of Virgil Henry III in Hawaiian Gardens. He was pummeled to death with baseball bats by Latinos of all ages, men and women, while on his way to visit his mother. Police say his brains were literally oozing on the pavement and that it was one of the worst hate crimes ever. But it hardly even reached the ears of any black Americans or Americans period. Romulo said that another difference is that we have laws that protect us. I was watching BET a few weeks ago and they were trying to see how many jewelry stores in New York are racist and they found one that was. They sent a black guy to the jewelry store and they told him that they had a customer already and that you have to make appointments. So then they sent a white guy to the store and they let him in immediately and showed him their best jewelry. And so racial profiling was proven and the store owner was hit with a big law suit. How many Afro-Latinos get this type of justice?

Also, lot's of Latin America's elite are just as racist as white supremacists. 'Blacks are closer to apes than civilized man...all that is done in favor of the inferior races is anti-scientific'-Jose Ingenieros-most influential of Latin America's social scientists. Laureno Gomez, one of Colombias former presidents said that blacks are the plague of Latin America and that in countries where they have disappeared, such as Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, it has been possible to establish a stable economic basis. But yet, people know more about Rush Limbaughs comment about black football players....

Now lets look at it economically

"An estimated 150 million Latin Americans, close to a 30 percent of the total population in the region, are of African descent. But they are 40 percent of the poor, states the report quoting an IDB study. In Brazil and Colombia, the countries with the largest Black populations in South America, they are among the poorest, least educated, and lowest paid citizens. In Brazil, 52 percent of them live in houses with no adequate sanitation, while only 28 percent of Whites lives under the same conditions. In Colombia, 80 percent of the Black population live in conditions of extreme poverty."

Afro-Latinos are beginning to speak up

"We are invisible. In a way, we black people are right where we were 130 years ago, because there are no black people in high society. However, you can see many black faces in the housing projects, in prison, and in the unemployment line," said Ebenecer Lopez Ruyo, president of the Puerto Rican Council Against Racism.

Ana Irma Rivera Lassen, of the Marching Feminists Group in March, said few people acknowledge their black heritage because they think it would limit their social mobility and access to higher spheres of power.'

There are lots of Latinos who partake in violent racism against their counterparts. But I think most of them have indifference. They don't hate or love blacks, they just don't see them at all. In the long run that does more damage than outright dislike because it can't be addressed. I think its usually Latinos in the U.S. who refrain from going by race. Most of them do this out of not knowing that their nationality is not a race, or either because they know that in the U.S. Latinos have to stick together. I think Latinos are more unified in the U.S. because they're in a foreign place so some of them put their prejudices aside. In the U.S. prejudices affect Latinos of all races, even the white Latinos and that brings Latinos together. But it seems that white Latinos don't care about the racism that affects Afro-Latinos in Latin America because it doesn't affect them. It's like...only when it affects them do they want to say 'Latino Unity'. It's really true what they say, walking in someone else's shoes changes you.

[DESI BOY]

It doesn't really take a rocket scientist, the question is almost rhetorical. There's never been an Afro-Latino television show, there's not many blacks in high-profiled jobs, there's not many blacks in the government. And yes, the racism is worse than it is in the U.S.

Latin America might as well have Jim Crow Laws because Afro-Latinos don't have access to many of the things that white or Mestizo Latinos do. Television for example, how many blacks do you see on Spanish television? Lots of the shows still condone Black Face actors which is very offensive. Or how many blacks do you see in the government or high profiled jobs? Latin America is segregated it's just not segregated officially. A lot of the racial barriers that have been broken in the U.S. have yet to be broken in Latin America.

And while the KKK doesn't have an impact on the daily lives of blacks, Latin America's Death Squads kill blacks on a daily basis so I would be more afraid of them. And these are trained killers(retired policemen) mind you, hired to hunt down the poor, the thieves, and they say that in most cases being poor and black are synonomous.

"The government agrees here too: according to the paper handed to the UN, the victims of death squads are almost without exception poor, black men, between 15 and 24 years old, accused of petty crime."

Latin America's racism is just less...publicized. Romulo Hernandez said that is one of the differences between U.S. racism and Latin America's racism. Like the Rodney King beating, the fact that everyone knows about it proves that it was actually taken seriously, but had it been in Latin America it would probbaly wouldn't have reached the media. In fact, almost all non-white American racism is never publicized. Like the lynching of Virgil Henry III in Hawaiian Gardens. He was pummeled to death with baseball bats by Latinos of all ages, men and women, while on his way to visit his mother. Police say his brains were literally oozing on the pavement and that it was one of the worst hate crimes ever. But it hardly even reached the ears of any black Americans or Americans period. Romulo said that another difference is that we have laws that protect us. I was watching BET a few weeks ago and they were trying to see how many jewelry stores in New York are racist and they found one that was. They sent a black guy to the jewelry store and they told him that they had a customer already and that you have to make appointments. So then they sent a white guy to the store and they let him in immediately and showed him their best jewelry. And so racial profiling was proven and the store owner was hit with a big law suit. How many Afro-Latinos get this type of justice?

Also, lot's of Latin America's elite are just as racist as white supremacists. 'Blacks are closer to apes than civilized man...all that is done in favor of the inferior races is anti-scientific'-Jose Ingenieros-most influential of Latin America's social scientists. Laureno Gomez, one of Colombias former presidents said that blacks are the plague of Latin America and that in countries where they have disappeared, such as Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, it has been possible to establish a stable economic basis. But yet, people know more about Rush Limbaughs comment about black football players....

Now lets look at it economically

"An estimated 150 million Latin Americans, close to a 30 percent of the total population in the region, are of African descent. But they are 40 percent of the poor, states the report quoting an IDB study. In Brazil and Colombia, the countries with the largest Black populations in South America, they are among the poorest, least educated, and lowest paid citizens. In Brazil, 52 percent of them live in houses with no adequate sanitation, while only 28 percent of Whites lives under the same conditions. In Colombia, 80 percent of the Black population live in conditions of extreme poverty."

Afro-Latinos are beginning to speak up

"We are invisible. In a way, we black people are right where we were 130 years ago, because there are no black people in high society. However, you can see many black faces in the housing projects, in prison, and in the unemployment line," said Ebenecer Lopez Ruyo, president of the Puerto Rican Council Against Racism.

Ana Irma Rivera Lassen, of the Marching Feminists Group in March, said few people acknowledge their black heritage because they think it would limit their social mobility and access to higher spheres of power.'

There are lots of Latinos who partake in violent racism against their counterparts. But I think most of them have indifference. They don't hate or love blacks, they just don't see them at all. In the long run that does more damage than outright dislike because it can't be addressed. I think its usually Latinos in the U.S. who refrain from going by race. Most of them do this out of not knowing that their nationality is not a race, or either because they know that in the U.S. Latinos have to stick together. I think Latinos are more unified in the U.S. because they're in a foreign place so some of them put their prejudices aside. In the U.S. prejudices affect Latinos of all races, even the white Latinos and that brings Latinos together. But it seems that white Latinos don't care about the racism that affects Afro-Latinos in Latin America because it doesn't affect them. It's like...only when it affects them do they want to say 'Latino Unity'. It's really true what they say, walking in someone else's shoes changes you.
u sure stick by yo name

[Da_Last_Word]

depends on were u at.


cuz in brazil blacks r poor n theres racism frum da 'white' ppl in brazil.

the skinhead movement is kinda big ova there.

in colombia, we dont hate blacks or anything, but they poor n dont realli have a voice.


in argentina, there aint 2 many black ppl, but the few that are there are treated bad.

I hear that the UN labled Colombia the most racist country in the world. They've even got graffiti on walls that says 'haga patria, mata a un negro', and it's more than just graffiti on a wall, they actually do kill blacks for their country. Laureano Gomez, one of Colombia's former presidents said that blacks are a plague and in the countries where he has disappeared, such as Uruguay, Chile, and Bolivia, the people have been able to prosper. So it's like racism and superstition mixed together, they really see blacks as ugly and a curse to their countries. Luis Gilberto Murillo, an Afro-Colombian activist whom I admire, stated that if you think it's bad for Colombians it is twice as bad for Afro-Colombians. You never see Afro-Colombians driving cars or owning nice houses. Racism in Latin America makes the U.S. look like a racial paradise. My man Carlos Flores puts it best though, white and Mestizo Latinos want to talk about U.S. racism but they don't want to address their own. And while many people will argue that the same thing goes on in the U.S. I beg to differ. When you watch music videos you will white looking black women and hardly any true black women, but it's not it's not as bad as what goes on in Latin America. There are still very many prominent dark skinned people in the U.S., Michael Jordan, Wesley Snipes, Oprah, Larry Elder, Nia Long, etc. The discrimination amongst black Americans is confined to music videos mainly. It's not like this.


"This is not to say that there are no whites living and working in rural areas or in the “ghettoes”, because there are many, but this is to say that poor whites are treated differently than poor blacks. Cerruti was told by a Dominican: “Go to Bani; the most beautiful girls- white skin, straight black hair.” (Cerruti, 548) Bani is a rural town densely populated by white Dominicans, most likely descendents of Spanish farmers who owned slaves, but who now find themselves in poor conditions because agriculture has lost its market. For Cerruti to have been told this is as if a Dominican was showing off Spanish descendents as if they were a statue or historical landmark. Why not show off the sites where Dominicans put all their strength into making a living mining amber or rounding up cattle, for the sake of scarcely supporting themselves and their families? This seems to be something worthier of having pride in than physical attributes one was born with. In addition, another Dominican told Cerruti: “Of course everybody wants to move up. A black wants his children to marry less black. Whites don’t want to move down.” (Cerruti, 548) With this in mind, whites want to keep their white lineage and blacks want to lose their black lineage, and both groups can not be satiated. Although racism may seem to be a personal issue, in my visits to Dominican Republic I have noticed that there are no dark-skinned people working in the capital’s United Colors of Benetton store or in other western stores, because dark-skinned Dominicans do not encompass the Dominican ideal of beauty. For these people racism starts having repercussions. For one, it can mean that this dark-skinned person will have to quit school to sell pastries in the streets to only make in a whole day what s/he would have made in an hour in the previously mentioned store. It is the difference between school and an after-school job or a job that will take you nowhere in life. This established order of what is beautiful or ugly, what is right or proper, what is competent or incompetent, is disintegrating Dominican unity in a time when Dominicans need to get together to achieve the goal of uplifting their nation."

[DESI BOY]

I hear that the UN labled Colombia the most racist country in the world. They've even got graffiti on walls that says 'haga patria, mata a un negro', and it's more than just graffiti on a wall, they actually do kill blacks for their country. Laureano Gomez, one of Colombia's former presidents said that blacks are a plague and in the countries where he has disappeared, such as Uruguay, Chile, and Bolivia, the people have been able to prosper. So it's like racism and superstition mixed together, they really see blacks as ugly and a curse to their countries. Luis Gilberto Murillo, an Afro-Colombian activist whom I admire, stated that if you think it's bad for Colombians it is twice as bad for Afro-Colombians. You never see Afro-Colombians driving cars or owning nice houses. Racism in Latin America makes the U.S. look like a racial paradise. My man Carlos Flores puts it best though, white and Mestizo Latinos want to talk about U.S. racism but they don't want to address their own. And while many people will argue that the same thing goes on in the U.S. I beg to differ. When you watch music videos you will white looking black women and hardly any true black women, but it's not it's not as bad as what goes on in Latin America. There are still very many prominent dark skinned people in the U.S., Michael Jordan, Wesley Snipes, Oprah, Larry Elder, Nia Long, etc. The discrimination amongst black Americans is confined to music videos mainly. It's not like this.


"This is not to say that there are no whites living and working in rural areas or in the “ghettoes”, because there are many, but this is to say that poor whites are treated differently than poor blacks. Cerruti was told by a Dominican: “Go to Bani; the most beautiful girls- white skin, straight black hair.” (Cerruti, 548) Bani is a rural town densely populated by white Dominicans, most likely descendents of Spanish farmers who owned slaves, but who now find themselves in poor conditions because agriculture has lost its market. For Cerruti to have been told this is as if a Dominican was showing off Spanish descendents as if they were a statue or historical landmark. Why not show off the sites where Dominicans put all their strength into making a living mining amber or rounding up cattle, for the sake of scarcely supporting themselves and their families? This seems to be something worthier of having pride in than physical attributes one was born with. In addition, another Dominican told Cerruti: “Of course everybody wants to move up. A black wants his children to marry less black. Whites don’t want to move down.” (Cerruti, 548) With this in mind, whites want to keep their white lineage and blacks want to lose their black lineage, and both groups can not be satiated. Although racism may seem to be a personal issue, in my visits to Dominican Republic I have noticed that there are no dark-skinned people working in the capital’s United Colors of Benetton store or in other western stores, because dark-skinned Dominicans do not encompass the Dominican ideal of beauty. For these people racism starts having repercussions. For one, it can mean that this dark-skinned person will have to quit school to sell pastries in the streets to only make in a whole day what s/he would have made in an hour in the previously mentioned store. It is the difference between school and an after-school job or a job that will take you nowhere in life. This established order of what is beautiful or ugly, what is right or proper, what is competent or incompetent, is disintegrating Dominican unity in a time when Dominicans need to get together to achieve the goal of uplifting their nation."
fukin hell uve had da last word again :cool:

[TX COLOMBIANO]

I hear that the UN labled Colombia the most racist country in the world. They've even got graffiti on walls that says 'haga patria, mata a un negro', and it's more than just graffiti on a wall, they actually do kill blacks for their country. Laureano Gomez, one of Colombia's former presidents said that blacks are a plague and in the countries where he has disappeared, such as Uruguay, Chile, and Bolivia, the people have been able to prosper. So it's like racism and superstition mixed together, they really see blacks as ugly and a curse to their countries. Luis Gilberto Murillo, an Afro-Colombian activist whom I admire, stated that if you think it's bad for Colombians it is twice as bad for Afro-Colombians. You never see Afro-Colombians driving cars or owning nice houses. Racism in Latin America makes the U.S. look like a racial paradise. My man Carlos Flores puts it best though, white and Mestizo Latinos want to talk about U.S. racism but they don't want to address their own. And while many people will argue that the same thing goes on in the U.S. I beg to differ. When you watch music videos you will white looking black women and hardly any true black women, but it's not it's not as bad as what goes on in Latin America. There are still very many prominent dark skinned people in the U.S., Michael Jordan, Wesley Snipes, Oprah, Larry Elder, Nia Long, etc. The discrimination amongst black Americans is confined to music videos mainly. It's not like this.


"This is not to say that there are no whites living and working in rural areas or in the “ghettoes”, because there are many, but this is to say that poor whites are treated differently than poor blacks. Cerruti was told by a Dominican: “Go to Bani; the most beautiful girls- white skin, straight black hair.” (Cerruti, 548) Bani is a rural town densely populated by white Dominicans, most likely descendents of Spanish farmers who owned slaves, but who now find themselves in poor conditions because agriculture has lost its market. For Cerruti to have been told this is as if a Dominican was showing off Spanish descendents as if they were a statue or historical landmark. Why not show off the sites where Dominicans put all their strength into making a living mining amber or rounding up cattle, for the sake of scarcely supporting themselves and their families? This seems to be something worthier of having pride in than physical attributes one was born with. In addition, another Dominican told Cerruti: “Of course everybody wants to move up. A black wants his children to marry less black. Whites don’t want to move down.” (Cerruti, 548) With this in mind, whites want to keep their white lineage and blacks want to lose their black lineage, and both groups can not be satiated. Although racism may seem to be a personal issue, in my visits to Dominican Republic I have noticed that there are no dark-skinned people working in the capital’s United Colors of Benetton store or in other western stores, because dark-skinned Dominicans do not encompass the Dominican ideal of beauty. For these people racism starts having repercussions. For one, it can mean that this dark-skinned person will have to quit school to sell pastries in the streets to only make in a whole day what s/he would have made in an hour in the previously mentioned store. It is the difference between school and an after-school job or a job that will take you nowhere in life. This established order of what is beautiful or ugly, what is right or proper, what is competent or incompetent, is disintegrating Dominican unity in a time when Dominicans need to get together to achieve the goal of uplifting their nation."

Go to Colombia first, then start talking.


My grandfather owns a farm and two houses. And he's black.

My uncle owns a hosue and rives a new model Peuguot.

My other uncle lived in a wealthy neighborhood in Cartagena and guess what? He's black.

The graffiti part isn'tenough proof. In Mexico there's bumper stickers that sya "Haz patria, mata a un Chilango" and viceversa. Chilangos are the ones from Mexico City who tend to be lighter and may have blonde/brown hair. If we were to apply your logic, then all Mexicans from other cities hate Mexicans from the capitol and viceversa.

You obviously haven't been to Colombia.

If you go to the coast you'll see many wealthy blacks.

It's not like the poor blacks are the only poor people in Colombia. Think of people who have lost their houses to Guerillas.


Most racist country my ass. You'd be surprised how many people on the coasts are mixed with black or amerindian and yet they don't hate themselves for being what they are.

Unlike other countries (India, Mexico, Argentina, Spain etc), alot of us don't see "white" attributes as true beauty.

Curves and tan skin are the best you can get in a woman.

I don't remember ever having apartheid, segregation, or ethnic clensing in Colombia.

[Da_Last_Word]

Go to Colombia first, then start talking.


My grandfather owns a farm and two houses. And he's black.

My uncle owns a hosue and rives a new model Peuguot.

My other uncle lived in a wealthy neighborhood in Cartagena and guess what? He's black.

The graffiti part isn'tenough proof. In Mexico there's bumper stickers that sya "Haz patria, mata a un Chilango" and viceversa. Chilangos are the ones from Mexico City who tend to be lighter and may have blonde/brown hair. If we were to apply your logic, then all Mexicans from other cities hate Mexicans from the capitol and viceversa.

You obviously haven't been to Colombia.

If you go to the coast you'll see many wealthy blacks.

It's not like the poor blacks are the only poor people in Colombia. Think of people who have lost their houses to Guerillas.


Most racist country my ass. You'd be surprised how many people on the coasts are mixed with black or amerindian and yet they don't hate themselves for being what they are.

Unlike other countries (India, Mexico, Argentina, Spain etc), alot of us don't see "white" attributes as true beauty.

Curves and tan skin are the best you can get in a woman.

I don't remember ever having apartheid, segregation, or ethnic clensing in Colombia.

Your family being successful doesn't prove anything either, it doesn't emblemize the conditions of the overall population. And I never said that there weren't poor whites, in the post above the person I quoted specifically says that 'this is not to say that there are no whites living in the ghettos, because there are many, this is to say that poor whites are treated differently than poor blacks'. And I didn't say that the graffiti was proof, that's why I said 'it's not only graffiti', this is the proof right here http://www.chicagoans.net/afroresources/untold.pdf

There is segregation in Latin America, it's just not crystallized like I explained. There are no laws that say that blacks aren't allowed on television but they're not there. Let's say I have a club and I only allow blacks, but I have no sign that says 'no non-blacks allowed', what if I just waited until people got there and then told them? That's still discrimination isn't it? There is segregation, it's just subtle, it's done more cleverly. The U.S. was just more frank with it's segregation. And that's why it has changed, because it was confronted. Latin America's segregation is quite evasive and secretive, and that's why it thrives.

Most of what I posted was facts, economic and social facts. Last year was the first time a black Colombian man was giving a leading role on television, which shows how far behind Latin America is in the breaking of racial barriers. I remember Morgan Freedman saying the fact that Hollywood accepts black Americans now doesn't mean that Hollywood has changed necissarily, it means that the U.S. has changed and Hollywood follows trends, it doesn't set them. And in no way am I saying that acceptance on television means there is no racism, it just means that it's a start. If you can't even bare to look at someone on television then....

My friend Rico was talking about Afro-Latinos like you on puertorico.com You're in such denial, even when reality is right there you don't want to believe it.

"Rico:
Suki, the reason why the blacks of the island wouldn't say that that is the big red hot issue for a few reasons:
1)Unawareness - The racism in PR isn't out in the open, it is often done in a very subtle way, that they sometimes don't even know that it is happening. For an example off the top of my head, there was a certain travel company that mi primo and I used to work for. I remember that there was this family from PR that came there and mi primo sat them in the lobby while we checked in their documents on a computer,cuando mi primo(who looks white) took their fathers credit card to establish a line of credit, they were like sure go right ahead, and even joking with him about not to go buy a car with it. However, when I came over to them, because they needed their grandmother's credit card, they had like a worried look on their face, then in a nice way she said "well let me come with you", of course I didn't think anything of it at the time, hell if you had told me that they were being racist, I would have told you that you were crazy. However, after becoming more conscious of what was going on, I know for a fact that they were being very much racist, and this type of racism is very dangerous to our black Ricans because they don't even know when it is going on.I don't even think that they know how much they are being held back from going forward. I mean just look at Puerto Rican rapper Tego Claderon, he said that it wasn't until he came back from the states that he realized how racist the island was because they kept it so hidden.

2)Denial - We don't want to believe that our own people are against us. I remember that the last time I was on the island, the black Ricans spoke the loudest of Puerto Rican unity, and in many cases would claim that there wasn't racism there(we all know that isn't true). Believe me, I am the last person that wants to believe that my people are racist, as I said before both my father and sister would be considered white in PR, so naturally I would always try to find an excuse to come to the defense of why my own people wouldn't be racist against me. Also, as we all know the issues of racism isn't talked about in our culture.....it is just put into action."

[TX COLOMBIANO]

Your family being successful doesn't prove anything either, it doesn't emblemize the conditions of the overall population. And I never said that there weren't poor whites, in the post above the person I quoted specifically says that 'this is not to say that there are no whites living in the ghettos, because there are many, this is to say that poor whites are treated differently than poor blacks'. And I didn't say that the graffiti was proof, that's why I said 'it's not only graffiti', this is the proof right here http://www.chicagoans.net/afroresources/untold.pdf

There is segregation in Latin America, it's just not crystallized like I explained. There are no laws that say that blacks aren't allowed on television but they're not there. Let's say I have a club and I only allow blacks, but I have no sign that says 'no non-blacks allowed', what if I just waited until people got there and then told them? That's still discrimination isn't it? There is segregation, it's just subtle, it's done more cleverly. The U.S. was just more frank with it's segregation. And that's why it has changed, because it was confronted. Latin America's segregation is quite evasive and secretive, and that's why it thrives.

Most of what I posted was facts, economic and social facts. Last year was the first time a black Colombian man was giving a leading role on television, which shows how far behind Latin America is in the breaking of racial barriers. I remember Morgan Freedman saying the fact that Hollywood accepts black Americans now doesn't mean that Hollywood has changed necissarily, it means that the U.S. has changed and Hollywood follows trends, it doesn't set them. And in no way am I saying that acceptance on television means there is no racism, it just means that it's a start. If you can't even bare to look at someone on television then....

My friend Rico was talking about Afro-Latinos like you on puertorico.com You're in such denial, even when reality is right there you don't want to believe it.

"Rico:
Suki, the reason why the blacks of the island wouldn't say that that is the big red hot issue for a few reasons:
1)Unawareness - The racism in PR isn't out in the open, it is often done in a very subtle way, that they sometimes don't even know that it is happening. For an example off the top of my head, there was a certain travel company that mi primo and I used to work for. I remember that there was this family from PR that came there and mi primo sat them in the lobby while we checked in their documents on a computer,cuando mi primo(who looks white) took their fathers credit card to establish a line of credit, they were like sure go right ahead, and even joking with him about not to go buy a car with it. However, when I came over to them, because they needed their grandmother's credit card, they had like a worried look on their face, then in a nice way she said "well let me come with you", of course I didn't think anything of it at the time, hell if you had told me that they were being racist, I would have told you that you were crazy. However, after becoming more conscious of what was going on, I know for a fact that they were being very much racist, and this type of racism is very dangerous to our black Ricans because they don't even know when it is going on.I don't even think that they know how much they are being held back from going forward. I mean just look at Puerto Rican rapper Tego Claderon, he said that it wasn't until he came back from the states that he realized how racist the island was because they kept it so hidden.

2)Denial - We don't want to believe that our own people are against us. I remember that the last time I was on the island, the black Ricans spoke the loudest of Puerto Rican unity, and in many cases would claim that there wasn't racism there(we all know that isn't true). Believe me, I am the last person that wants to believe that my people are racist, as I said before both my father and sister would be considered white in PR, so naturally I would always try to find an excuse to come to the defense of why my own people wouldn't be racist against me. Also, as we all know the issues of racism isn't talked about in our culture.....it is just put into action."

You make very valid points in the television parts.

And the denial part as well.


I was just stating my opinion because of what you said about Colombia. Kinda pissed me off.

But you make alot of sense.

Racism is kinda "there but not there".

Alot of blacks in Colombia live in Choco (no pun intended that's the real name) and Bolivar.

They are both parts with HORRIBLE weather. They're hoems are constant;y destroyed by mudslides.

But they can't get out because they don't have enough money to start a new life.

Choco has rainfall every single goddamn day. No bull. Parts of it are rain forest.

But like I said, they don't have enough to leave so what is there to do.

[TX COLOMBIANO]

Your family being successful doesn't prove anything either, it doesn't emblemize the conditions of the overall population. And I never said that there weren't poor whites, in the post above the person I quoted specifically says that 'this is not to say that there are no whites living in the ghettos, because there are many, this is to say that poor whites are treated differently than poor blacks'. And I didn't say that the graffiti was proof, that's why I said 'it's not only graffiti', this is the proof right here http://www.chicagoans.net/afroresources/untold.pdf

There is segregation in Latin America, it's just not crystallized like I explained. There are no laws that say that blacks aren't allowed on television but they're not there. Let's say I have a club and I only allow blacks, but I have no sign that says 'no non-blacks allowed', what if I just waited until people got there and then told them? That's still discrimination isn't it? There is segregation, it's just subtle, it's done more cleverly. The U.S. was just more frank with it's segregation. And that's why it has changed, because it was confronted. Latin America's segregation is quite evasive and secretive, and that's why it thrives.

Most of what I posted was facts, economic and social facts. Last year was the first time a black Colombian man was giving a leading role on television, which shows how far behind Latin America is in the breaking of racial barriers. I remember Morgan Freedman saying the fact that Hollywood accepts black Americans now doesn't mean that Hollywood has changed necissarily, it means that the U.S. has changed and Hollywood follows trends, it doesn't set them. And in no way am I saying that acceptance on television means there is no racism, it just means that it's a start. If you can't even bare to look at someone on television then....

My friend Rico was talking about Afro-Latinos like you on puertorico.com You're in such denial, even when reality is right there you don't want to believe it.

"Rico:
Suki, the reason why the blacks of the island wouldn't say that that is the big red hot issue for a few reasons:
1)Unawareness - The racism in PR isn't out in the open, it is often done in a very subtle way, that they sometimes don't even know that it is happening. For an example off the top of my head, there was a certain travel company that mi primo and I used to work for. I remember that there was this family from PR that came there and mi primo sat them in the lobby while we checked in their documents on a computer,cuando mi primo(who looks white) took their fathers credit card to establish a line of credit, they were like sure go right ahead, and even joking with him about not to go buy a car with it. However, when I came over to them, because they needed their grandmother's credit card, they had like a worried look on their face, then in a nice way she said "well let me come with you", of course I didn't think anything of it at the time, hell if you had told me that they were being racist, I would have told you that you were crazy. However, after becoming more conscious of what was going on, I know for a fact that they were being very much racist, and this type of racism is very dangerous to our black Ricans because they don't even know when it is going on.I don't even think that they know how much they are being held back from going forward. I mean just look at Puerto Rican rapper Tego Claderon, he said that it wasn't until he came back from the states that he realized how racist the island was because they kept it so hidden.

2)Denial - We don't want to believe that our own people are against us. I remember that the last time I was on the island, the black Ricans spoke the loudest of Puerto Rican unity, and in many cases would claim that there wasn't racism there(we all know that isn't true). Believe me, I am the last person that wants to believe that my people are racist, as I said before both my father and sister would be considered white in PR, so naturally I would always try to find an excuse to come to the defense of why my own people wouldn't be racist against me. Also, as we all know the issues of racism isn't talked about in our culture.....it is just put into action."


PS: I'm not fully black.

Im quite mixed actually.

1/8 french, 1/4 black. 1/16 wayuu (amerindian basically), 1/4 venezuelan, rest is Colombian.

But alot of people think I'm black.

I think it might be the nose, even though I get it from my dad and he has no black in him. My black side has long type noses lol

[Da_Last_Word]

[QUOTE=TX COLOMBIANO]PS: I'm not fully black.

Im quite mixed actually.

1/8 french, 1/4 black. 1/16 wayuu (amerindian basically), 1/4 venezuelan, rest is Colombian.

But alot of people think I'm black.

I think it might be the nose, even though I get it from my dad and he has no black in him. My black side has long type noses lol[/QUOT

Well the reason why Colombia and Brazil are focused on more when it comes to racism is because they have the largest black populations in Latin America. I will say that Brazil is more racist in some ways and Colombia is more racist in some ways. But I've already contributed my views and facts...

As for you being fully black...You look fully black to me. French is not a race, you might as well just say white. And just about every black American has some white in them but it's dominated by black genes like your white blood seems to be. Venezuelan is not a race it's a nationality, and Colombian is also a nationality. So I'm confused.

[HyperAzzLatina]

I've heard its really bad for blacks in the Spanish speaking countries is it true.Like being black is seen as being ugly.I know in order to b black in Latin America u gotta b maxed out African.I also heard blacks r looked down upon and shit like that they r the bottom of society.Do any of u hispanics know if this is true?When i say blacks i mean African-Latino not mullato type.

Well, in my country its not so bad. I guess it depends on the people because the Indigenous people are more looked down upon. I guess it depends on the appearance or something but it would also depend on the location. Its probably worse more down south. My friend says that in Peru some people really dont like them. I dont know. This is too long! :( heh

[TX COLOMBIANO]

Well the reason why Colombia and Brazil are focused on more when it comes to racism is because they have the largest black populations in Latin America. I will say that Brazil is more racist in some ways and Colombia is more racist in some ways. But I've already contributed my views and facts...

As for you being fully black...You look fully black to me. French is not a race, you might as well just say white. And just about every black American has some white in them but it's dominated by black genes like your white blood seems to be. Venezuelan is not a race it's a nationality, and Colombian is also a nationality. So I'm confused.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty light actually in person, but you can tell I got black in me.

I just stated the nationalities to show I was mixed, but latinos see each country as different from each other, even though we consider them our 'race'.

You're very right about the blacks being mixed.

People like Ciara, Ludacris, Colin Powell, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Dude from house party (lol) etc dont get lighter skin magically.

Africans and other fully black people (ie many black Colombians, Venezuelans, Costa Ricans, Panamanians, Jamaicans etc) look different in some ways from black Americans.

[Reaper]

And I ask the question again...where did all this racism come from? The Spaniards thats who...who were white. I mean before the arrival of these albino fucks...do you really think that there was ever such a thing as a racism? Probably not because, before the invasion of the Europeans, everybody who lived within a certain region were all the same color. What did that krackers do, fuck everything up and start this mix and matching bullshit, and make room for centuries of racism. The arrival of the Spainards was a curse upon the new world.

[Da_Last_Word]

Well the reason why Colombia and Brazil are focused on more when it comes to racism is because they have the largest black populations in Latin America. I will say that Brazil is more racist in some ways and Colombia is more racist in some ways. But I've already contributed my views and facts...

As for you being fully black...You look fully black to me. French is not a race, you might as well just say white. And just about every black American has some white in them but it's dominated by black genes like your white blood seems to be. Venezuelan is not a race it's a nationality, and Colombian is also a nationality. So I'm confused.

I'm pretty light actually in person, but you can tell I got black in me.

I just stated the nationalities to show I was mixed, but latinos see each country as different from each other, even though we consider them our 'race'.

You're very right about the blacks being mixed.

People like Ciara, Ludacris, Colin Powell, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Dude from house party (lol) etc dont get lighter skin magically.

Africans and other fully black people (ie many black Colombians, Venezuelans, Costa Ricans, Panamanians, Jamaicans etc) look different in some ways from black Americans.[/QUOTE]

Lol, I looked at ur profile, you are lighter, LOL, you look like Marques Houston, just tall as fuck. That's how my pics are too, they vary in complexion depending on what type of day it is or where I'm at.

Yeah, that's because white people vary in looks too. Like Spanish and Italian people look more alike while English and Russian people look more alike. A lot of black latinos have Spanish features whereas lots of black Americans have American features. But there are a lot of them who you can't even really tell apart from black Americans. Like Merlin Santana, he had Spanish features but you couldn't really point him out in a crowd of black Americans because when you first see a person you're not trying to figure out what type of features they have. I didn't even know Merlin was hispanic when I was younger, I used to see him on the Cosby show and I always figured he was your average black American.

[Da_Last_Word]

And I ask the question again...where did all this racism come from? The Spaniards thats who...who were white. I mean before the arrival of these albino fucks...do you really think that there was ever such a thing as a racism? Probably not because, before the invasion of the Europeans, everybody who lived within a certain region were all the same color. What did that krackers do, fuck everything up and start this mix and matching bullshit, and make room for centuries of racism. The arrival of the Spainards was a curse upon the new world.

Yeah, I have to agree here. Most people pin all of slavery on white Americans but they were small timers compared to the Spaniards and the Portuguese. The Portugeuse were the first to start slavery and the last to end it and their cultural theft is reflected by Brazil's large black population. White people are not called white devils just because white Americans had slaves in the U.S., they're called such because they enslaved the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Incans, the Africans, and many more. America was like a picture on a canvas and they erased it and repainted it to their liking. But I don't blame all white people for it, I have lots of white people that I'm cool with. I've only met one Spanish person in my life, he was a foreign exchange student fresh out of Spain, Barcelona I think, he was cool, respectful, etc. And respect receives respect.

[Reaper]

Yeah, I have to agree here. Most people pin all of slavery on white Americans but they were small timers compared to the Spaniards and the Portuguese. The Portugeuse were the first to start slavery and the last to end it and their cultural theft is reflected by Brazil's large black population. White people are not called white devils just because white Americans had slaves in the U.S., they're called such because they enslaved the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Incans, the Africans, and many more. America was like a picture on a canvas and they erased it and repainted it to their liking. But I don't blame all white people for it, I have lots of white people that I'm cool with. I've only met one Spanish person in my life, he was a foreign exchange student fresh out of Spain, Barcelona I think, he was cool, respectful, etc. And respect receives respect.

Well we than differ on one crucial point, I however do blame all white ppl. It makes little difference to me whether all of them were responsible or not...the fact is the mistakes of a few refelct upon the many. That is grossly understated however..to call the amount of krackers that commited these crimes a "few" is a cosmic injustice. Not more than 3 or 4 decadeds ago 91% of all white americans were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Not more than 20 years ago half of the States in the U.S. still were lynching blacks or hispanics at their liesure. Do you know when the first kracker recieved the death penalty for murdering a black man..1983! Prior to that thousands of blacks were killed in equal and more horrific ways without any kind of penalty. Do I have a right to blame all whites for this...you goddamn right I do. They are responsible for more death and torture than any other race combined on the face of the planet...past and present. The future is ours to dictate and we can make these maggots pay once and for all for the countless oppression, torture and endless slaughter of human life that they have inflicted for hundreds of years. Since the ones who commited these crimes are dead than their decendants will pay...ans so on until justice is finally served. Than and than only can some kind of peace be attained, but not at the price of justice.

[Cubanita_2005]

ayo well in Cuba it aint like dat all dat shit bout treating blaqz diffrent and what not i mean all cubans no matter how u look u look like shit to Fidel Castro

[Da_Last_Word]

ayo well in Cuba it aint like dat all dat shit bout treating blaqz diffrent and what not i mean all cubans no matter how u look u look like shit to Fidel Castro

Yeah, pretty much true, but former inequalities have put white and other non-black Cubans ahead of Afro-Cubans. For example, most Cubans you see in the U.S. are white, like Pitbull, Andy Garcia, and Carmen Diaz. Why is that? Because their families had the money to relocate and then they send money back to their relatives in Cuba and then their relatives probably come to the U.S. and do the same thing. So that is how the rich get richer and the poor stay poorer, or in other words 'how the white stay richer and the black stay poorer'. It's kind of like that with African Americans too. Slavery and former inequalities have put us behind. Fidel Castro is a tyrant but he atleast tries to instill racial equality unlike leaders in other Latin American countries.

[TX COLOMBIANO]

Lol, I looked at ur profile, you are lighter, LOL, you look like Marques Houston, just tall as fuck. That's how my pics are too, they vary in complexion depending on what type of day it is or where I'm at.

Yeah, that's because white people vary in looks too. Like Spanish and Italian people look more alike while English and Russian people look more alike. A lot of black latinos have Spanish features whereas lots of black Americans have American features. But there are a lot of them who you can't even really tell apart from black Americans. Like Merlin Santana, he had Spanish features but you couldn't really point him out in a crowd of black Americans because when you first see a person you're not trying to figure out what type of features they have. I didn't even know Merlin was hispanic when I was younger, I used to see him on the Cosby show and I always figured he was your average black American.

thats the fifth time i get marques houston on RH lol

My grandpa reminds me so much of Bill Cosby, except for the whole pudding and weird ass way of talking.

Sammy Sosa looks just like any other black dude. He remidns me of LeBron james except for his nose.

NORE is half dominican (or PR maybe) but he looks pretty black to me.

Alot of black latinos "camoflauge" with black Americans in Houston.

You'd be surprised how many black colombians live around sharpstown mall.

There's even a nightclub that is ONLY black colombians. It's called Melaos.

They look just like your aerage black person except the whole accent thing.

[Da_Last_Word]

thats the fifth time i get marques houston on RH lol

My grandpa reminds me so much of Bill Cosby, except for the whole pudding and weird ass way of talking.

Sammy Sosa looks just like any other black dude. He remidns me of LeBron james except for his nose.

NORE is half dominican (or PR maybe) but he looks pretty black to me.

Alot of black latinos "camoflauge" with black Americans in Houston.

You'd be surprised how many black colombians live around sharpstown mall.

There's even a nightclub that is ONLY black colombians. It's called Melaos.

They look just like your aerage black person except the whole accent thing.

Yeah, nationality and culture are the only thing that seperate races. The only things that give us individuality. N.O.R.E. has a Puerto Rican parent but I don't know what race his Puerto Rican parent is. Most likely a mulatta, if his Puerto Rican parent was white he would most likely be lighter.

An Afro-Colombian club? Cool, I'm not sad that I'm not allowed, LOL, I just like to see Afro-Latinos coming up. Black people are all over the world and black Americans shouldn't be the only ones who prosper.

[TX COLOMBIANO]

Yeah, nationality and culture are the only thing that seperate races. The only things that give us individuality. N.O.R.E. has a Puerto Rican parent but I don't know what race his Puerto Rican parent is. Most likely a mulatta, if his Puerto Rican parent was white he would most likely be lighter.

An Afro-Colombian club? Cool, I'm not sad that I'm not allowed, LOL, I just like to see Afro-Latinos coming up. Black people are all over the world and black Americans shouldn't be the only ones who prosper.
It's not officially afro-colombian, but that's all you see inside, except maybe the musicians.

NORE's mom is probably mulatta.

Co-sign definately on the black Americans part.

Don't get me wrong, I go to a mostly black school, am part black, and my best friend is black, but sometimes you get the impression that black Americans leave black Africans behind.

[makavelii]

naw that shit aint true

many hispanics are black skinned toned but they still hispanic...


well there is the the hispanics who are mixed with indian and do have the brown skin toned yeah they do get looked down on... but not the black black ones... just the indian mixed ones they tend to be kinda cluelesss


wtf is this nigga talking about Indian mixed spanish people?
anyways what about the Goodyear Commerical where they was compaired the tires to the black guys lips on them spanish speakin channels. i think that was point proved. I think its all good in pr and dr. but if you go to columbia and brazil and other countries. they prob do get treated like shit.

[makavelii]

Nores Popz is PR, not mayb. Fact.

not like i care just correcting you.

[Da_Last_Word]

wtf is this nigga talking about Indian mixed spanish people?
anyways what about the Goodyear Commerical where they was compaired the tires to the black guys lips on them spanish speakin channels. i think that was point proved. I think its all good in pr and dr. but if you go to columbia and brazil and other countries. they prob do get treated like shit.

That's what I was wondering also, 'what the hell is he talkin about?'. But most Latinos are a mixture of Indian and Spanish(white), the ideal image is someone like Eva Mendez, you can tell she's just a light skinned Indian. But yeah, what that ni99a was talkin about made no sense whatsoever.

[Da_Last_Word]

Nores Popz is PR, not mayb. Fact.

not like i care just correcting you.

Nah his mom is Puerto Rican, I remember now, cuz he has a song dedicated to 'Ma Santiago'.

[Da_Last_Word]

It's not officially afro-colombian, but that's all you see inside, except maybe the musicians.

NORE's mom is probably mulatta.

Co-sign definately on the black Americans part.

Don't get me wrong, I go to a mostly black school, am part black, and my best friend is black, but sometimes you get the impression that black Americans leave black Africans behind.

Yeah, you right MH, a lot of black Americans make fun of Africans while they idolize people like Beyonce.

[BEEN_IN_UR_CHIK]

smh @ at anyone reading those novels of paragraphs....

look at some free internet porn or something

[DESI BOY]

EVERY NIGGA IN THIS THREAD THAT COPY AND PASTED THOSE QUOTES
DESERVE THIShttp://img257.echo.cx/img257/1259/dropkick5uw.gif

[Da_Last_Word]

LMAO! ive saved that shit
ive seen it like a 10000 times and it gets better all the time homie :D

LMFAO, that's some funny shit! You know what they say, 'it's funny until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!'

[legit_pipegame]

listen here homie it all boils down to basically what the SPANIARDS left bwhind .yes racism exists in latin america that is why most latinos dont wanna claim there INDIAN or AFRICAN roots because the spaniards brain washed an made people think natives an africans are just slaves..shit is just how it is right now how whites perceive blacks its the same shit ,but just in another country. i mean i been to mexico in mexico there are afro mexicans but they live in theyre own villages deep down south in mexico like on the coasts by veracruz ,acapulco ,etc.. mexico is segregated you have ya upper living people which r either MESTIZOS or just white faggot blonde lookin pussy ass spaniard lookin mothafuckas who live in the nice areas..then u have the working class which is like i said usually mestizo ..then u have the native indians who live in villages an shit away from society as well as the afro mexicans an shit they dont even exist in society cus of racism . an all that shit carrys on from tradition back in the day when the spaniards used the natives an africans as slaves to do they work all that shit is carried on to generations an generations. thats why u go to mostly all latin american countries and you look at who is in congress its usually SPANIARD lookin faggots who run the systems they are basically generation of other spaniard born family they had back in the day .thats why i dont like spaniard lookin "HISPANICS" if u wanna call it to me they aint latino .latinos to me are natives mixed with spanish or natives mixed with african or all 3 vice versa..it aint a full bred white ,spaniard who just happend to come from a generation of spanish settlers. fuck them.....alot of latinos here want to deny theyre african heritage especially mexicans . i come across alot of dumbass mexicans who think they r proud to be mexican but dont kno the first thing about mexico or anything other then buying a flag an celebrating cinco de mayo..thats not even mexican independance day either.

[legit_pipegame]

Nah his mom is Puerto Rican, I remember now, cuz he has a song dedicated to 'Ma Santiago'.





his dad ',MAMBO" was rican u dumbass an his mom was black ..fuckin listen to his debut cd idiot "mathematics" is the song.....

[jazmyne]

this is Vanessa Mendoza. Señorita Colombia 2002.


she's the first ever black girl to win Miss Colombia.

http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/hot/colombia1.jpg
http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/hot/colombia2.jpg
http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/hot/colombia3.jpg
http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/winners/ncwinner.jpg

i think she's stunning!

[legit_pipegame]

this is Vanessa Mendoza. Señorita Colombia 2002.


she's the first ever black girl to win Miss Colombia.

http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/hot/colombia1.jpg
http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/hot/colombia2.jpg
http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/hot/colombia3.jpg
http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2002/winners/ncwinner.jpg

i think she's stunning!


yes very stunning but you lookin good as well sweet cheeks ;)...an colombians also have african descent as well as most latinos ..southern latin americans ,central ,carribean latinos etc..some have more then others due to the slave embargo etc..but all minus argentinians have african ancestry

[Da_Last_Word]

his dad ',MAMBO" was rican u dumbass an his mom was black ..fuckin listen to his debut cd idiot "mathematics" is the song.....

Ok nigga, tone that down. You talkin to the H.N.I.C. son. And as for N.O.R.E. I wouldn't listen to his whack ass album if you payed me. As a matter of fact the CD was so whack my friend gave it away for free. So please excuse my misconception. I don't know any of his songz accept for the ones that come out on BET. I coulda sworn it was dedicated to his momz though, oh well. Chill out boy boy.

[Da_Last_Word]

TooLaDDiKT, where have you been? You don't even send me messages no more. What's really good?

[Da_Last_Word]

listen here homie it all boils down to basically what the SPANIARDS left bwhind .yes racism exists in latin america that is why most latinos dont wanna claim there INDIAN or AFRICAN roots because the spaniards brain washed an made people think natives an africans are just slaves..shit is just how it is right now how whites perceive blacks its the same shit ,but just in another country. i mean i been to mexico in mexico there are afro mexicans but they live in theyre own villages deep down south in mexico like on the coasts by veracruz ,acapulco ,etc.. mexico is segregated you have ya upper living people which r either MESTIZOS or just white faggot blonde lookin pussy ass spaniard lookin mothafuckas who live in the nice areas..then u have the working class which is like i said usually mestizo ..then u have the native indians who live in villages an shit away from society as well as the afro mexicans an shit they dont even exist in society cus of racism . an all that shit carrys on from tradition back in the day when the spaniards used the natives an africans as slaves to do they work all that shit is carried on to generations an generations. thats why u go to mostly all latin american countries and you look at who is in congress its usually SPANIARD lookin faggots who run the systems they are basically generation of other spaniard born family they had back in the day .thats why i dont like spaniard lookin "HISPANICS" if u wanna call it to me they aint latino .latinos to me are natives mixed with spanish or natives mixed with african or all 3 vice versa..it aint a full bred white ,spaniard who just happend to come from a generation of spanish settlers. fuck them.....alot of latinos here want to deny theyre african heritage especially mexicans . i come across alot of dumbass mexicans who think they r proud to be mexican but dont kno the first thing about mexico or anything other then buying a flag an celebrating cinco de mayo..thats not even mexican independance day either.

Well I agree with you on pretty much everything. You know your history. Accept one thing. Spaniards are the original Latinos, along with the French, the Portuguese, and the Italians. The residents of Latin America however, are mulattos, mestizos, negros, and Indios who happen to speak Spanish, a Latin language, because they were slaves of the Spaniards.

[richardc]

Racism is existant in Latin America. First there is the racism that exists towards the indigenous population of latin america. A good example in is mexico where the indigenous are second class citizens. Another form of racism that exists is between the rich and poor. In latin America the poor are also treated as second class citizens. Lastly in the northern countries of latin american there exists much racism towards illegal immigrants. Many people try to migrate to the united States through mexico when caught by the Mexican border patrol they are detained and face the same racism many mexicans face when they cross the border.

[Reaper]

listen here homie it all boils down to basically what the SPANIARDS left bwhind .yes racism exists in latin america that is why most latinos dont wanna claim there INDIAN or AFRICAN roots because the spaniards brain washed an made people think natives an africans are just slaves..shit is just how it is right now how whites perceive blacks its the same shit ,but just in another country. i mean i been to mexico in mexico there are afro mexicans but they live in theyre own villages deep down south in mexico like on the coasts by veracruz ,acapulco ,etc.. mexico is segregated you have ya upper living people which r either MESTIZOS or just white faggot blonde lookin pussy ass spaniard lookin mothafuckas who live in the nice areas..then u have the working class which is like i said usually mestizo ..then u have the native indians who live in villages an shit away from society as well as the afro mexicans an shit they dont even exist in society cus of racism . an all that shit carrys on from tradition back in the day when the spaniards used the natives an africans as slaves to do they work all that shit is carried on to generations an generations. thats why u go to mostly all latin american countries and you look at who is in congress its usually SPANIARD lookin faggots who run the systems they are basically generation of other spaniard born family they had back in the day .thats why i dont like spaniard lookin "HISPANICS" if u wanna call it to me they aint latino .latinos to me are natives mixed with spanish or natives mixed with african or all 3 vice versa..it aint a full bred white ,spaniard who just happend to come from a generation of spanish settlers. fuck them.....alot of latinos here want to deny theyre african heritage especially mexicans . i come across alot of dumbass mexicans who think they r proud to be mexican but dont kno the first thing about mexico or anything other then buying a flag an celebrating cinco de mayo..thats not even mexican independance day either.


Damn couldn't put it better myself. Its true..if it weren't for the fucking Spanish krackers, this racism and mixing bullshit wouldn't exist today. They FUCKED EVERYTHING up!

[lanenamorena]

Discrimination against poverty is not racism. It is discrimination against poverty.

Discrimination against illegal immigrants is not racism. It is discrimination against illegal immigrants.

RACISM is the systematic preference of one race to another in all facets of life. It is where one race benefits off the sheer privaledge of either being the majority or being those in charge or convincing others to hate themselves. Specific individuals can be prejudice, but systems and governments can be racist, whether overtly or covertly.

The US is OVERTLY racist, which means that everyone knows that it exists and can call it out for what it is, and have the situation addressed. Latin America is covertly racist and until people, especially those Amerindians and African descended individuals call it what it is, it will continue to exist.

But instead, most of these individuals are caught up in the struggle of their not-quite-white brethren in fighting for the rights of Latinos. They don't realize white latinos have their full rights... it is usually the light mestizos and mulatos who are not white enough to get by in America who need the backing of people they wouldn't even have the courtesy to respect in their home countries, the same people who are on the receiving end of racism in their home countries... these are the people they need to back them for Latino/Hispanic rights, and who they kiss butt to once they arrive to America in the name of brotherhood to get them on their side.

But understanding what Black Americans overstand is this... There are no true rights for anyone if someone is being oppressed. Until AfroLatinos and Amerindian Latinos are treated like first class citizens in their home country, they would be wise in ethnically differentiating themselves and fighting for their rights, as AfroLatino and Amerindian Latino than as Latino. You don't face discrimination in the US because of your Spanish surname, nor your accent... it is your skin color. And here, that discrimination can be addressed.

It is all political that people are being classed as Latino instead of their race... Africans and Black Americans are not ethnically the same but they class us together. But if they were to class Black Latinos with us, they would realize that we are not a shrinking minority. They want AfroLatinos to be caught on the sidelines worrying about their rights as latinos over their rights as a black person... but the whole reason many latinos are easily distinguished from white people is their African and Amerindian lineage. How this country has fooled and lulled so many people into a false struggle amazes me.

As far as the struggle of rich vs. poor... that has been about since the beginning of time. And that struggle may overlap with racism a bit, only because by birth, those who look/are white have priveledges that make it easier for that person to obtain wealth, whereas someone darker would have to fight 2-3 times harder.

The struggle of illegal immigrants is that this country is to capacity. The US plays babysitter, nurtures, supports, hands out to countries who neither can return the favors nor care to. This country is full of people who identify with other places as home, and send all of their money and aid there while this country is in slow decline trying to support and adapt to these people. These countries (all of them, not just the latin ones) should be looking to themselves to figure out what the hell they are doing wrong where their citizens are having to leave to make it. People who are illegally coming into this country are hurting just as much as people who claim this country as home. So understand, both sides will have issues. Just as unfair as things are to illegal immigrants, things are getting worse for people who do not and cannot connect to any other country but this one. How would you feel if a whole bunch of people came to your country, refused to learn your language (trust me, some people SURELY DO), lowered wages past where your family could survive, systematically slaughtered your economy because they sent most of their money earned here out of the country, gave the government need to make multilingual schools in areas where they don't even have the funds for decent education in the first place (because immigrants are not moving into rich school districts), and then waved other flags in your face.... you wouldn't be happy right? That is where the animosity and discrimination (which I don't agree with) come in. I do however agree that sanctions on immigration should be tightened 3fold, and that legal action should be pursued to correct the US immigration system. LEGAL immigration from Europe, Africa, Latin America, and Asia should be the way, or no way at all (but others may want to disagree). That is still not considered racism though.

The confusion of terms makes the confusion of solutions.

[Reaper]

Its still all the fucking Spaniards fault. Every Spaniard should be lined up and shot.

[Conejita]

Its still all the fucking Spaniards fault. Every Spaniard should be lined up and shot.

but o well der is nottin u can do about it n dose spaniards dat so called started it r dead so woopti fuckin do, its over u cant do shyt to dem so chill n get ova ur stupid racist things!

[Reaper]

but o well der is nottin u can do about it n dose spaniards dat so called started it r dead so woopti fuckin do, its over u cant do shyt to dem so chill n get ova ur stupid racist things!

The hell I cant. So woopti fuckin do yourself..I can do shit about it. So why dont you get over your bullshit.

[Conejita]

The hell I cant. So woopti fuckin do yourself..I can do shit about it. So why dont you get over your bullshit.

yeh wat can u do cept for wish on the death of ppl that aint even do nottin cuz ur sorry ass missed da time period were da ppl u talkin bout were doin alla dat shyt to other races??? n wat bullshit iz it dat i need to get over? ur da 1 dat needs to face REALITY

[Reaper]

yeh wat can u do cept for wish on the death of ppl that aint even do nottin cuz ur sorry ass missed da time period were da ppl u talkin bout were doin alla dat shyt to other races??? n wat bullshit iz it dat i need to get over? ur da 1 dat needs to face REALITY

I can do alot more than just wish motherfucker..trust me. Motherfucker I dont care if it was 5 or 500 years..somebody gonna pay. Your the one who needs to face reality asshole...not me.

[pojp]

Its still all the fucking Spaniards fault. Every Spaniard should be lined up and shot.
my thoughts exactly

[eltopo13]

thas true tho.. spaniards R not hispanic/latino... us latinos got color..estos majes son palidos...we got brown in us..and sum r black..thats wat makes us latinos... i dunt think a latino is sumone wit pure whitness in them...the whites r either the spaniards or the portuguese... the past task masters who enslaved our ancestors... real latinos r the ones wit indian lookn features or half black half indian half idian half white... take a look at latin america.. most of us are brown n down

[SupersonicBitch]

yes, it is unless. the person being educated and well establish does make others forget what color he/she is.

[242boy]

Discrimination against poverty is not racism. It is discrimination against poverty.

Discrimination against illegal immigrants is not racism. It is discrimination against illegal immigrants.

RACISM is the systematic preference of one race to another in all facets of life. It is where one race benefits off the sheer privaledge of either being the majority or being those in charge or convincing others to hate themselves. Specific individuals can be prejudice, but systems and governments can be racist, whether overtly or covertly.

The US is OVERTLY racist, which means that everyone knows that it exists and can call it out for what it is, and have the situation addressed. Latin America is covertly racist and until people, especially those Amerindians and African descended individuals call it what it is, it will continue to exist.

But instead, most of these individuals are caught up in the struggle of their not-quite-white brethren in fighting for the rights of Latinos. They don't realize white latinos have their full rights... it is usually the light mestizos and mulatos who are not white enough to get by in America who need the backing of people they wouldn't even have the courtesy to respect in their home countries, the same people who are on the receiving end of racism in their home countries... these are the people they need to back them for Latino/Hispanic rights, and who they kiss butt to once they arrive to America in the name of brotherhood to get them on their side.

But understanding what Black Americans overstand is this... There are no true rights for anyone if someone is being oppressed. Until AfroLatinos and Amerindian Latinos are treated like first class citizens in their home country, they would be wise in ethnically differentiating themselves and fighting for their rights, as AfroLatino and Amerindian Latino than as Latino. You don't face discrimination in the US because of your Spanish surname, nor your accent... it is your skin color. And here, that discrimination can be addressed.

It is all political that people are being classed as Latino instead of their race... Africans and Black Americans are not ethnically the same but they class us together. But if they were to class Black Latinos with us, they would realize that we are not a shrinking minority. They want AfroLatinos to be caught on the sidelines worrying about their rights as latinos over their rights as a black person... but the whole reason many latinos are easily distinguished from white people is their African and Amerindian lineage. How this country has fooled and lulled so many people into a false struggle amazes me.

As far as the struggle of rich vs. poor... that has been about since the beginning of time. And that struggle may overlap with racism a bit, only because by birth, those who look/are white have priveledges that make it easier for that person to obtain wealth, whereas someone darker would have to fight 2-3 times harder.

The struggle of illegal immigrants is that this country is to capacity. The US plays babysitter, nurtures, supports, hands out to countries who neither can return the favors nor care to. This country is full of people who identify with other places as home, and send all of their money and aid there while this country is in slow decline trying to support and adapt to these people. These countries (all of them, not just the latin ones) should be looking to themselves to figure out what the hell they are doing wrong where their citizens are having to leave to make it. People who are illegally coming into this country are hurting just as much as people who claim this country as home. So understand, both sides will have issues. Just as unfair as things are to illegal immigrants, things are getting worse for people who do not and cannot connect to any other country but this one. How would you feel if a whole bunch of people came to your country, refused to learn your language (trust me, some people SURELY DO), lowered wages past where your family could survive, systematically slaughtered your economy because they sent most of their money earned here out of the country, gave the government need to make multilingual schools in areas where they don't even have the funds for decent education in the first place (because immigrants are not moving into rich school districts), and then waved other flags in your face.... you wouldn't be happy right? That is where the animosity and discrimination (which I don't agree with) come in. I do however agree that sanctions on immigration should be tightened 3fold, and that legal action should be pursued to correct the US immigration system. LEGAL immigration from Europe, Africa, Latin America, and Asia should be the way, or no way at all (but others may want to disagree). That is still not considered racism though.

The confusion of terms makes the confusion of solutions.

That was a wonderful post. I agree with your points totally. That is the best expression of intellect that i've ever seen on this website.

[bangin_dj_Screw]

my thoughts exactly
same thing should happen to mayates. fuckin ******s

[Reaper]

same thing should happen to mayates. fuckin ******s

Now you crossed the line you fucking spic. I defend the blacks as much if not more than I would my own. So tell me you goddamn spic, what have you against blacks? Fuckin ass would side with krackers than with ppl who share his struggle. You make me sick you know that you worthless fucking spic.

[wenset]

hmm some dude i know wrote a huge article about how racist each country is in the south,see if i can find it